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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
OziBeerMan said:
If I recall most on here at start of the season voted for a trophy over a top 4-5 position. The sentiment was that Levy wouldn’t put up the dosh for a CL squad so let’s target a trophy.
Ange delivered, and with that got CL.
FFS there’s some bipolar attitudes here.
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That doesn't mean he should stay when EVERYTHING is considered and weighed up ffs.

Our league form since his first ten games, nearly two seasons worth of evidence, is absolutely horrific.

As good as the cup was, a kind cup run shouldnt disguse all of that.

It's really not as simple as you portray it to be.

And not to mention some of his conduct
 
OziBeerMan said:
If I recall most on here at start of the season voted for a trophy over a top 4-5 position. The sentiment was that Levy wouldn’t put up the dosh for a CL squad so let’s target a trophy.
Ange delivered, and with that got CL.
FFS there’s some bipolar attitudes here.
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Fair enough. But I’d like to think that you can win a trophy without the trade off of having your worst league position in nearly 50 years playing some of the dullest football ever seen at WHL - I mean Palace and Newcastle managed it after all.
 
latman said:
That doesn't mean he should stay when EVERYTHING is considered and weighed up ffs.

Our league form since his first ten games, nearly two seasons worth of evidence, is absolutely horrific.

As good as the cup was, a kind cup run shouldnt disguse all of that.

It's really not as simple as you portray it to be.

And not to mention some of his conduct
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Good post
 
WillWilliams said:
We are not a Liverpool / United / Chelsea’ / city who win all trophies available type club. It’s just not us. History shows that.

For years I have been pointing out to the ENIC out crowd on here that since the 90s when we win a trophy we do shit in the league. Is that what we want when we cry “win a trophy!!”

This forum had never existed when we had one of these seasons.

So the season we win a trophy we do shit in the league. And this forum goes insane.

But no surprise there.

People here clearly want their cake, to eat it and then rub it all over their naked bodies.
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A bit off your discussion topic but indeed …

It’s absolutely crazy to think the 9th richest club in the world - equivalent to Chavs and Red Scum should be able to compete on all fronts. Truly delusional thinking …

Levy really is a f’in scumbag - I fear it only gets worse from here - spending the club’s revenue on real estate projects has now begun in earnest and I suspect that spending only gets larger from here …
 
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PH1882 said:
Nuno V2 levels of excitement. Ditto Glasner and Silva.

Although I have a preference to Glasner, I’m struggling to think of too many names who would fill fans with joy.
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That’s why you let the Ange era have a natural conclusion. Either it absolutely kicks on better than most people expect, or it doesn’t and the next manager actually has a chance to succeed because they aren’t coming in to replace a manager after our biggest achievement in 41 years
 
Richard Arlison said:
Imagine Frank coming in now.

Hiding to nothing doesn’t do it justice.

The anti climax and instant drop in optimism would be seismic. Not his fault, he’s a good coach but that’s how the players would react.
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I do like Frank and don't think he would be a bad appointment anyway but I can see where you are coming from. It would be easier to make a case for him if we had lost the final and wasn't going to play in any European competitions next season. Then you could argue that he would be a sensible choice to stabilize things. Now fortunately, we won the final and are going to be playing in the Champions League and therefore has got a golden chance of pushing on. It is harder to get excited about someone like Frank then.
 
WillWilliams said:
We are not a Liverpool / United / Chelsea’ / city who win all trophies available type club. It’s just not us. History shows that.

For years I have been pointing out to the ENIC out crowd on here that since the 90s when we win a trophy we do shit in the league. Is that what we want when we cry “win a trophy!!”

This forum had never existed when we had one of these seasons.

So the season we win a trophy we do shit in the league. And this forum goes insane.

But no surprise there.

People here clearly want their cake, to eat it and then rub it all over their naked bodies.
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I want us back to the Bill Nich era when we won league and European doubles,

That’s history we are aiming for
 
I think Simone Inzaghi's stock (and price) just dropped a little after last night...

Music to the little man's ears I reckon! :levyeyes:

Pinch/Punch btw!!
 
Erni_COYS said:
I do like Frank and don't think he would be a bad appointment anyway but I can see where you are coming from. It would be easier to make a case for him if we had lost the final and wasn't going to play in any European competitions next season. Then you could argue that he would be a sensible choice to stabilize things. Now fortunately, we won the final and are going to be playing in the Champions League and therefore has got a golden chance of pushing on. It is harder to get excited about someone like Frank then.
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Exactly mate.

I’m not here to throw shade at Frank. He’s obviously an outstanding coach. But he situation isn’t good for him to come in right now. And tbh it’s not good for any of our reasonable targets imo.
 
SpursDNA said:
A bit off your discussion topic but indeed …

It’s absolutely crazy to think the 9th richest club in the world - equivalent to Chavs and Red Scum should be able to compete on all fronts. Truly delusional thinking …

Levy really is a f’in scumbag - I fear it only gets worse from here - spending the club’s revenue on real estate projects has now begun in earnest and I suspect that spending only gets larger from here …
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We have been buying up land for years. It’s nothing new.

Anyone who expects us to be playing on the same field as Manchester City under the current owners are stupid or mental.

We are a very well marketed brand. That’s it. Football, music , nfl, F1 and next hotels. Great business model.

Until an owner comes in who wants to win trophies above all else you are basically just giving Daniel levy his bonus money if you buy anything from the club.
I enter any transaction with this club with my eyes wide open.
 
Mostly wrong said:
You want Ange to stay to spite the fans that want him gone, even though you yourself want him gone?
I know they say it takes a masochist to support Spurs but that's some new level of bizarre on me.

What makes you think Tuchel will be available next summer? Chances are if we do well he will extend til at least Euro 2028.
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It's utterly ridiculous. That's why the only analogy is the cult. You support Spurs, yet an argument made in earnest offends you that you would welcome harm to your club. It's people under the thrall of others be they Postecoglou himself or strangers on the internet they do not know.

I've said it before I'll do it again, I don't read or respond to people who have established to my satisfaction an unhealthy relationship/intrest with other posters personally, who openly tell lies, or simply have built a personality around being contradictory on this form. I've bloked people on here for years now. Because I go to the games travel away and held a season ticket for decades . I'm intrested in people like me that share my intrest. Not empty vessels with no life, so don't waste your time interacting or asking me questions. You don't exist .
 
WillWilliams said:
If you think PSG players do anywhere near as much running in their league compared to ours I really don’t know what to say to you.

That’s seriously delusional thinking.

The premier league is way more intense than ligue 1.
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I wonder if it’s about intensity or overall level of ability.

In the PL the physical and technical level of almost every team can beat you. In ligue1 every team is physically intense but there are way more teams that PSG just know they are winning the game, even if they rest their best guys or sub them early
 
sudoku said:
Enfin la verite
I also have noticed the extremely low quality of argumentation against him.
It basically consists of calling those who think know Ange is a winner various extremely bizarre names.
BTW, who knew argumentation was a real word?
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I’d say it’s exactly the opposite!

The low quality of argumentation is for keeping him!

I really can’t comprehend how our Europa run to the trophy is used by some as evidence to outweigh his form in the Premier League the last 18 months?! 🤷🏻

The standard of opposition aren’t going to get easier next year when we’ll be in the Champions League!

The argument for keeping Ange is rooted entirely in emotion!
 
Richard Arlison said:
Imagine Frank coming in now.

Hiding to nothing doesn’t do it justice.

The anti climax and instant drop in optimism would be seismic. Not his fault, he’s a good coach but that’s how the players would react.
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I’m not so sure!

I should imagine the quality gap in coaching ability would come to the fore very quickly in training.

Ange clearly does motivational speaking very well, but I’d say Frank is miles ahead as a coach.
 
The footballing illiteracy of the people saying I'd rather keep Ange Postecoglou because Inzaghi lost to THAT PSG side might want to wait till Spurs play them. I'd take Inzaghi in a second over Ange. His side cost five times less than PSG, he got a side that contains Henrikn Mkihitaryan to the Champions League final overcoming Barcelona on the way. He's forgotten more about the elite game than Ange knows.
 
WillWilliams said:
We are not a Liverpool / United / Chelsea’ / city who win all trophies available type club. It’s just not us. History shows that.

For years I have been pointing out to the ENIC out crowd on here that since the 90s when we win a trophy we do shit in the league. Is that what we want when we cry “win a trophy!!”

This forum had never existed when we had one of these seasons.

So the season we win a trophy we do shit in the league. And this forum goes insane.

But no surprise there.

People here clearly want their cake, to eat it and then rub it all over their naked bodies.
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History doesn't really have much bearing on the here and now though, does it? Look at City and Chelsea that you listed, go back 21 years and who are those 2 sides? A side that flirts with CL qualification and a yoyo club. WE could change our fortunes just as easily with astute management and investment, we are not consigned to our place by "history".

I don't at all agree we have to tank a league campaign to win something either. If your argument is as such, it doesn't really hold water when you consider we have also been to a final in 4 years where we also finished in the top 8 (league cup finals 08/09, 14/15, 20/21, CL final 18/19). You have to play just as many games on the way to losing a final as you do winning one, so unless you're saying there's something psychological in completely flopping a league campaign that suddenly makes you shit hot in the cups, it is not a foregone conclusion that you must have a bottom half finish to win a cup.
 
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