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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I’m a Spurs fan, a football fan and an Ange fan.
And I like winning things too, just like Ange.
When they run out of reasonings/contexts in arguments and got caught up so much in their own bitterness they will throw all sorts of troll, goons, not a Spurs fan, cultist etc kind of labels. No idea why the constant need by some to portray superiority over the others when debating. It's getting both funny and sad.
 
Three on the bounce in February. Brentford away, United home, Ipswich away. 7 goals for 1 against.

That was the period when we recovered some fit players.

If you wanted to be really pro-Ange you could say, well, then a 1-0 loss to City and then we were into the Europa League knockouts as a 13th place side, that was the moment the attentions shifted.

It was more of a false dawn for me. But the point stands that there has never stopped being sparks of life here or there.

It was the midseason period where we had no players and then the late season period where it was all-or-nothing in the EL that we really embarrassed ourselves in the league. Two separate stretches of 4 points from 10 league games. Manager sacking form, no two ways about it.

This doesn’t tell the entire story though, three league wins has been nigh on impossible for much of his time here. The one you point out here is the latest one, prior to that the last time we won three league games on the bounce was Dec 2023.

We’ve had the odd double win here and there, but in the most part we’ve very much won one lost one, with some draws scattered about as well.

In fact in his entire time here I can only count 4 occasions on which we’ve won more than 2 games in a row in the league, and 3 of those occur in the time period between him starting and December 2023.

Now people can (and my Christ have) argue about the reasons for that, but the simple part is that he has routinely struggled to put together batches of wins.
 
Interesting. When I think of normal, happy people whose club have just won a European trophy after 2 decades of abject failure, I don’t think of those frequenting this thread, moaning about the manager and crying about how they don’t like his personality(!) Unstable people with personal issues you say? Hate to say it, but that kind of checks out to be honest.

Let’s be real, some of you normal, happy people (lol) are in need of a wake up call. Here’s a fact supported by many, many years worth of incontrovertible evidence for you: Spurs don’t win trophies, Postecoglou wins trophies. Rather than circle jerking one another in here, your time would be better spent realising that finishing 4th or 5th and achieving absolutely nothing apart from making Levy richer year on year isn’t a worthwhile endeavour.

And here I was thinking I’d come in here and see all you normal, happy folks being normal and happy by basking in the warm glow of winning a European trophy. But no, this is some weird Stockholm Syndrome shit where legions of mini-Levys are desperate for a return to the business as usual of ‘winning’ their qualification trophies.

What was it Postecoglou said about weak foundations?

Another angeboi on ignore
 
I think the fan euphoria is being overtaken by frustration and impatience that no decision has been announced on Potecoglou's future. The club must be aware of the media and public speculation about his future and it needs addressing one way or the other.

However, I think the club is undecided: IF they get who they want under the terms they want Postecoglou is gone. Otherwise they will keep him.

There are also other changes at the management level at the club which complicates the decision

All that momentum and unity at the parade just washing away and revealing all the same frustrations and disbelief.

Levy has an incredible knack for It.
 
Lovely walk this morning watching the sunrise over the fields. Feeling zen as fuck today.

And there’s no rush with this process. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Danny boy has a long term plan. And he’s minted so his planning works.

Europa League champions for the next year. Enjoy saying that.
Season ticket holders have already renewed regardless of manager.
We are in the CL next year.
Woolwich friendly in Homg Kong to keep our sponsors happy.
Super cup game in August. First time in our history we play in that fixture. .
Players are leaving who we don’t want.
Remaining players are on holiday.
Danny is on holiday.
Ange is on holiday.
No comment haa been made on the Paratici situation either.
We tend to make our signings late in the window as we don’t pay top wages. No rush there.

So just enjoy the summer. No point wishing your life away.

Love the shirt.

Que sera sera.
 
Lovely walk this morning watching the sunrise over the fields. Feeling zen as fuck today.

And there’s no rush with this process. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Danny boy has a long term plan. And he’s minted so his planning works.

Europa League champions for the next year. Enjoy saying that.
Season ticket holders have already renewed regardless of manager.
We are in the CL next year.
Woolwich friendly in Homg Kong to keep our sponsors happy.
Super cup game in August. First time in our history we play in that fixture. .
Players are leaving who we don’t want.
Remaining players are on holiday.
Danny is on holiday.
Ange is on holiday.
No comment haa been made on the Paratici situation either.
We tend to make our signings late in the window as we don’t pay top wages. No rush there.

So just enjoy the summer. No point wishing your life away.

Love the shirt.

Que sera sera.

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Well, getting knocked out in the round of 32 in the Europa league....doesn't that make him 17th in that league?

Are you saying he sacrificed Europe to prioritise the league? Or was he a poor coach who couldn't win Europe?

PS....an actual elite manager wins trophies, and doesn't just play to finish 4th.
I'd take poch every time over Ange. Never saw poch have a go at the fans and use every excuse for when we got beat. It was the best football I've seen us play. That team should have won trophys. Never saw Poch chuck the league away. Ange is an arsehole and an arrogant tosser.
 
Did he really make that decision though?
I remember him rushing back both VDV and Romero just for them to get injured. And that was for a league game.
It seems more like a story he constructed afterwards. And the reason we lost 22 games was not because of a depleted squad. It was because of really poor game plans.
He rushed back Romero and VDV in the Chelsea home game which was our 15th game. We were 10th then so my assumption would be that he still thought we could push on in the league if both came through that game and we got a result. As it turns out, they didn't come through that game, we didn't get a result and things got worse. I think the decision to scrap the league was probably made in early March. Look, I think we should part ways but I'm going to be objective about it and fair. Ultimately we cant lose 22 games and it wasn't just the defeats it was the manner of them that worries me.
 
My thoughts...

- Deal agreed with Frank
- Waiting for him and Ange to both get back from holiday
- Brentford speaking with replacements
- Romano will tweet something out by the weekend
- Announcements made by both Spurs and Brentford Monday / Tuesday next week.
Sensible, rational post.

I fucking hope this isn't the case though. Frank's a good manager but hardly inspiring off the back of an EL win. We'll be comfortably back up to 8th and knocked out in the quarters of all Cups, if that.

The only way this makes sense to me is Frank steadying the ship for 18 months before Poch comes back.

Hire Xavi now.
 
I'd take poch every time over Ange. Never saw poch have a go at the fans and use every excuse for when we got beat. It was the best football I've seen us play. That team should have won trophys. Never saw Poch chuck the league away. Ange is an arsehole and an arrogant tosser.

Poch's priority was top 4 - above all else. There was no pressure to win anything, and no compromises made to try and win a domestic cup.

Our Champions League run to the final resulted in 3 wins from our final 12 league games as he rested players and played weakened teams in the league. It was only through shockingly bad Woolwich and United end of season run that we got 4th; and we were just a few points away from ending up 6th.
 
This is what this team can do when they are fit and we don't have to start 18 year olds.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5E1XPzWvAY

After this game, we went on for 2.5 months with a game on average EVERY 3.5 days. All whilst missing VDV, Romero, Odobert and then losing Dragusin, Davies, Madisson, Udogie, Vicario, Werner, Johnson to injury.

Ange is on record saying that there was no training during this period. Play Game, rest, recovery - Play another game.

3 new players joined - Kinsky, Tel and Danso. Again, no time to integrate them into training session - straight into games.

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McDonald's, McDonald's
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I'd give Frank 3 months before we turn on him. Feels like Nuno all over again. A good manager in a mid table side whose primary objective is to retain their premier league place.
 
Sensible, rational post.

I fucking hope this isn't the case though. Frank's a good manager but hardly inspiring off the back of an EL win. We'll be comfortably back up to 8th and knocked out in the quarters of all Cups, if that.

The only way this makes sense to me is Frank steadying the ship for 18 months before Poch comes back.

Hire Xavi now.
I like Frank. Xavi of course would be great.
 
What if there has been no announcement because the club feels like there is no need to respond to rumours?

What if there has been no announcement because they want a replacement lined up straight away?

What if there has been no announcement because they are waiting to chat to Ange after his holiday?

What if there has been no announcement because they want to line up a few signings to cover the news?

What if there has been no announcement because they want Romero to sign a new contract to make it harder for him to leave when they say they are sacking Ange?

What if there has been no announcement because they're waiting for the moon to align with Uranus?

What if there has been no announcement because they're waiting for the next GTA6 trailer to drop?

I dunno how you guys juggle all these feelings day to day.
 
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