if they get out of line we can just make fun of the fart towns
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Ok... until this direct quote the line most people were peddling was that Levy wouldn't pay the compensation. You can find many sources that state this. So I'm quite happy with my facts but will update them now.
The you add the context to explain some of the things you want to explain to them, like working with a disgruntled medical team on the way out and half a medical team the year after. Plus a drastically slashed wage bill and 4 teenagers added in one season plus the expectation to give serious minutes to another teenager from the academy
And they realize that those two season outcomes are what they are; outstanding. Over achievements
Maybe not title challengers, but in retrospect they absolutely should never have been anywhere near relegation favorites with the players they had.
50% fluke, 25% other top teams being shit, 25% the squad was actually that good in a way no one knew
Absolutely, you and Levy both. Definitely a top-notch player development coach.
Being popular amongst certain groups doesn't mean he's a popular manager overall. General fanbase is fairly split as to whether he deserves to stay on or not.
Would rather hang on to him than replace him with mid table cloggers with no winning pedigree. Frank has had 4 seasons of PL football with no European commitment and best finish was 9th. Makes 5th look amazing.
Dont confuse things....
Ange HAS to go. Trying to make it as if , Frank is inferior to Ange is just tiresome.
Ange will never survive managing Brentford with his tactics...not for the 4+ seasons Frank has done. After the league season we just had, it will be significant achievement for Ange if he gets another PL job. Only chance he has is, if somehow gets a side promoted from championship. Its harsh opinion but if you put out a poll to all the fans of mid lower table teams in PL , Ange wont get majority to be their manager
Frank vs Hoeness - different conversation. Difficult choice but I might go for Hoeness too...
Never forgot the "E's" back in the 80's!
If Frank has to win things and finish in top half with Brentford, then Ange has to win treble with this Tottenham squad....
See - I can also say nonsensical idiotic things...
If the logic that 19th highest wages Brentford has to win things and be in Europe.... then Tottenham should also be winning PL, FA Cup and in Europe... Am sure you will agree...right ?
I can’t see how other than a Busby Babes type scenario, that finishing 17th could ever be seen as an overachievement, trophy or not!
If it was an overachievement his balls wouldn’t be on the chopping block!
trust me i'm no grammar naziNever forgot the "E's" back in the 80's!
17th obviously isn’t, I agree. Winning a European trophy is, especially in combination with 5th the season before
Only that 5th came with no Europe
Only that winning EL came , with sacrificing PL
You see the problem here , on why Ange out people are being Ange out ?
Sure but there's a massive generational split. I'd put it from my own anecdotal experience at about %60-40 OUT amongst older people and %70-30 IN amongst under 30's.
This is also backed up by online and social media polls and Reddit etc...
Also anecdotally there's one bloke in our section top of the South who is what I'd call a "Fat Cunt ANGE OUT Cultist" - he is universally despised by all the rest of us around him when the majority are also Ange Out but are NOT massive cunts about it.
This also gels with my experience in Bilbao and afterwards.
Yeah I wouldn't call it an overachievement. I see his tenure more as a successful ticking off of the things he was hired for.
1. Break our trophy duck
2. Turn over the squad and get younger, weathering the loss of Kane
3. Impose an attacking, front-foot, possession-based style of play, flushing Jose and Conte out of the system
That's not post-hoc rationalization. Go look at the first pages of this thread. He did what we asked of him.
You can't keep a manager that has us finishing 17th.
Europa League win was great. Everything else...not so much.
Europa League win was great. Everything else...not so much.
If Ange had to go. It should and must have been done immediately after Brighton if there was a football reality to face.
That it’s been left to drift is typical ENIC ineptitude and a sacking now would result in even more unnecessary distractions. So, on the basis of giving a very fragile squad a chance to recover I’d have to accept that Ange staying is right. Because quite clearly this ownership can’t afford to be successful in which case we need to stay up and away from the relegation zone. That’s clearly hard for this squad, so making it more brittle is not going to help. Ange is likely the most capable of getting them safe ( fucking hate writing such a sentence )
However, Mr Buyrite is almost certainly sitting on this for financial reasons. I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised if sacking Ange at a certain point is some kind of accounting trick and Danny knows the coffers can’t deal with £10m in sacking, bonus and new manager payments. And that’s the only reason for the delay.
Daniel seems to know the price of everything and the value of nothing. As history - his history - confirms if we dare to look.
Sacked a manager at half time.
Sacked a manager 6 days before a cup final.
And now can’t bare to sack someone who lost 30 odd games over the past year. Cowards come to mind when I think of our board.
That it’s been left to drift is typical ENIC ineptitude and a sacking now would result in even more unnecessary distractions. So, on the basis of giving a very fragile squad a chance to recover I’d have to accept that Ange staying is right. Because quite clearly this ownership can’t afford to be successful in which case we need to stay up and away from the relegation zone. That’s clearly hard for this squad, so making it more brittle is not going to help. Ange is likely the most capable of getting them safe ( fucking hate writing such a sentence )
However, Mr Buyrite is almost certainly sitting on this for financial reasons. I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised if sacking Ange at a certain point is some kind of accounting trick and Danny knows the coffers can’t deal with £10m in sacking, bonus and new manager payments. And that’s the only reason for the delay.
Daniel seems to know the price of everything and the value of nothing. As history - his history - confirms if we dare to look.
Sacked a manager at half time.
Sacked a manager 6 days before a cup final.
And now can’t bare to sack someone who lost 30 odd games over the past year. Cowards come to mind when I think of our board.
Ange or no Ange, whoever's in the dugout next season operates with one arm tied behind their back.