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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 72 64.3%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.7%

  • Total voters
    112
BBC:

'But it had not gone unnoticed that Postecoglou had become increasingly distant from the squad in recent months.

At the start of his reign, the Australian would regularly have breakfast - certainly at away games - with the rest of his team.

Recently, however, his obligatory ham and cheese toastie had been delivered to his room by a member of staff.

On those away trips, it had been known for him not to be visible around the team hotel until noon.

As a result, some players started taking issues they'd usually approach Postecoglou with to other members of the backroom team'
That’s something that’s been spun out by Matt Law the grim reaper of Spurs news so I’d put as much faith in it as my mate telling me Margot Robbie just phoned asking me out for a date!
 
Fucking love that this is now in general football.

Hopefully all his fucking cultist fanbois are locked in here like General Zod in the phantom zone.


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When you think about it, his fans probably have a bit of a Non lost looking expression all day.
 
I think it's the right decision but I can't help feeling sad today. He brought me the happiest moment in my Spurs supporti ng life

Seems like we are getting daggers from the media and fans for sacking a trophy winner, but it's a very narrow perspective
 
Disappointed, but we all expected this to happen.

All of the togetherness, momentum and euphoria from the cup final win has been immediately wiped from the dressing room and Spurs are back to square one.

Ive never seen such an outpouring of emotion from a group of players and, I expect Levy will be receiving a number of transfer requests in the coming weeks.

Just as we sacked Poch after getting us to champs league final - Levy now has $$$ in his eyes.

Ange will have no issue finding another job and like I have said, I fully expect him to be lifting the premier league title soon. In the short term.....it wouldn't surprise me to see him manging at the World Cup next year.

Ange gone
Romero gone
Son gone
Porro gone

Back to square one.



Players having extraordinary relationship with a manager does not automatically mean they will not be professional with the next manager.

Where were you when Romero was linked to Atleti move since jan window ? Had we not won EL, his transfer could have been announced by now

Sonny - his contract is near a end and there was always a possibility he was going

Porro - where did he say he wanted a move out ?

It seems like, you have lot of hypothetical sceanrios in your mind and started to think they are actually real....
 
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I think it's the right decision but I can't help feeling sad today. He brought me the happiest moment in my Spurs supporti ng life

Seems like we are getting daggers from the media and fans for sacking a trophy winner, but it's a very narrow perspective
Media are a bunch of c@nts and will write whatever generates click bait shocker!

I’d pay very little attention to what’s written over the coming days, what’s genuine will probably be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes.
 
Media are a bunch of c@nts and will write whatever generates click bait shocker!

I’d pay very little attention to what’s written over the coming days, what’s genuine will probably be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes.
To be fair to the media, which I don’t like to be. The daggers were out in the fan base long before the media.
 
Ange certainly has played a huge part in player management. Kudos to him to have the entire squad on board
But player management comes secondary to tactics.

Couple of more weeks things should be less emotional - then its up to whoever is the 2nd manager to make sure he gets the support of playing staffs and fans
 
I agree with the idea of getting a manager in the vein of Xavi in principle but in reality can you honestly say the ongoing battle he had with the Barcelona board in his final season brims you with confidence about his compatibility with Levy/ENIC? Having worked with a difficult board at Barcelona what makes you think Xavi, who will surely be aware of Daniel Levy's reputation (or swiftly become aware of it upon interest being made clear) would want to roll the dice with such a notoriously difficult chairman?

The reality is we may well be very limited in the scope of managers who are both available and interested. Taking on a squad with a very young average age, no obvious star player to build the side around, who had very conflicting results of winning a prestigious trophy and having CL football next season, with having their worst league finish in modern football. I don't get the sense that a guy like Xavi is desperate to take the next job offered to him, I think he would happily sit on his arse until a tailor-made opportunity to print trophies with a team with substantial resources and/or reputation comes along.

That, in essence is why I think it's naive to say that league placement has no bearing on our ability to win things long term, the fact that Mourinho and Conte came here when we were a nearly-there team says that down the line as long as we keep ourselves in the upper echelons of the league, when Levy and ENIC finally fuck off (something I'd say the fanbase is fairly united on) and we get owners who won't sell manager after manager after manager down the river, we could bring a guy in like Conte and actually back him with a huge warchest to build the squad he needs. I truly believe if you go out and furnish him with a £250m net spend window in Summer 2022 the last few years of the club look very fucking different.

I think there's enough of a shout with Frank based on the job he's done with Brentford that we could see consistent scaling up of the side over a 3-5 year period also. Pochettino was less proven, and his Southampton side were not at the same financial disparity to the rest of the league as Brentford. Pochettino was far more pragmatic in his approach with his Southampton side than he immediately was for us when he came to Spurs. I just think it's so naive to assume that because Frank has only achieved what he has thus far he has no capacity to improve and grow as a manager. For every Nuno you have a Poch or Redknapp from that profile of manager.

A manager who isn’t compatible with this board is instantly more appealing to me,

One that the board wants is the biggest red flag possible
 
so motivated the players lost 22 games. He is probably the worst motivator ever.

In the cup, the players didn't need any motivation. The players wanted it and a dog could have managed the team there and then.
Fucking sick of this see through “he had nothing to do with the Cup win” narrative, it’s absolute horse shit. He fucked the league no doubt, but to say he shouldn’t get credit for the cup is just absolute agenda and shithousery.

So the CL final the players shouldn’t have needed motivation going by your analysis? Maybe they shouldn’t have needed it then but by fuck they certainly did.
 
Ange certainly has played a huge part in player management. Kudos to him to have the entire squad on board
But player management comes secondary to tactics.

Couple of more weeks things should be less emotional - then its up to whoever is the 2nd manager to make sure he gets the support of playing staffs and fans
Sadly we as a fan base and football supporters in general will have a preconceived opinion on a manager before a football is even kicked. We seen it before and we will see it again, *supporters* will have the pitch forks out at the first sign of underperformance, just waiting for the “see, I told you so”.
 
Fucking sick of this see through “he had nothing to do with the Cup win” narrative, it’s absolute horse shit. He fucked the league no doubt, but to say he shouldn’t get credit for the cup is just absolute agenda and shithousery.

So the CL final the players shouldn’t have needed motivation going by your analysis? Maybe they shouldn’t have needed it then but by fuck they certainly did.

It's generally perpetuated by low IQ people
 

"I would love to know the thought process behind the decision to get rid of him. Is it saying the finance of the Premier League is the be-all and end-all? So finishing fourth or fifth in the Premier League and not winning a trophy is what matters.

"It is like they are morphing into Woolwich under Arsene Wenger at the end, if that's what is important.

"But money over glory sums up the owner, Daniel Levy, doesn't it?

"Nothing surprises me in football any more, so Postecoglou is better off out of it really - and maybe they can go back to being mediocre old Tottenham again now."


Sadly, all very true. Terrible football decision by DL (among many). Strangely, many folk on here seem to want a nice cosy top 8 finish rather than actual glory and winning. Let’s be Brentford. Woo hoo.
 
Another way to look at it is, he had a squad capable of winning the Europa League and managed to lead them to 22 PL defeats.
I’ve been pretty zen about it all. I like Ange as a bloke and do believe he had a strong connection with the players.
However, the above is the strongest argument yet for parting ways.
I won’t belittle our win in Bilbao. If anything, the prize of CL football makes it just that little bit harder to win imo. Teams that would usually prioritise their league will fight harder in the EL now than before. It’s not tinpot (after the league title and CL it’s the next most prestigious)
It’s still a glorious feeling.
But you can’t argue that a squad capable of winning a European trophy is so shit that it finishes just outside of relegation. Thats on the manager. An inability to juggle the league with a winning cup run led to him getting the sack.
Most other seasons, our points haul would have seen us get relegated.
There’s another positive. If levy gets the next appointment wrong, there will be even more knives drawn. There’s still a host of people who think sacking Ange was the wrong thing to do. Levy is skating on very thin ice with the fans even though we’ve just won a trophy.
 
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