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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Technically he could. But probably won’t.
Cos that's not his second season.
Yeah “you will win a trophy if you employ me and sack me” doesn’t quite have the same AngeBall branding appeal.
I find it hard to believe that 10 extra pages have been added after I posted this. 10K pages here we come!!
But, in all seriousness, this Club needs to decide on a way they want to play and stick to it.
The management then have to agree to select the approriate manager, staff and players to achieve this.
They also have to give TIME for this to take effect. (3 or 4 seasons???)
Is RDZ the answer?
To soon to tell.
Will the management back him with the time and players he wants? Probably not, and then we're back on groundhog day.
I like the high-line attacking football that Ange espoused and that is what I saw in the PSG v Bayern game.
The second semi was 20 outfield players standing around and twiddling their thumbs.
If the management had fully backed Ange with players and time, I think we would have beeen vying for the PL title in a couple of seasons.
And for all you Doomers (derangers as
Phomesy
calls you), stick the numbers 17 & 22 where the sun doesn't shine.
That is because you are an utter fantasist, because no evidence points to this being remotely possible for him. You can of course believe it, people believe in all sorts of ridiculous things, but nobody else in the industry does, hence why nobody anywhere near decent is hiring him.
You should probably take your “thoughts” to some of the premier leagues top clubs and see if you can convince them. Probably not. But at least it’ll be them being subjected to non stop fan boy idiocy.
Yes yes, the same old conversations yawn. The famously not hard competition that it took Spurs how many decades to win? The easiest opponents, because every other failed campaign was the result of losing to truly elite European powerhouses like… Dinamo Zagreb.
If you haven’t noticed, Aston Villa have been one of the best few teams in the Premier League this season and last. I think we can probably all agree that Emery is a better manager than Postecoglou whilst also acknowledging that the squad he has at Villa right now is far superior to the ramshackle bunch Ange had at his disposal for most of his Europa run last year. Could Emery have made a better fist of the situation Ange had with Maddison out, Kulu out, Udogie out, Solanke out, VDV liable to break down at any time, etc? Ok sure, I’ll go along with that. Could he have had that Tottenham team winning the Europa League whilst also challenging for top 5? Like fuck he could have.
You only have to look at this season - why haven’t spurs reclaimed their rightful spot in the top 5 of English football like sooooo many on here considered some near guarantee once they got rid of the fraud? News flash: this season has been much, much worse.
As for Forest, you say they’re in fine form but ignore the fact that they’re in about the exact same league position as Spurs were the end of last season. The previous season without Europe they were what, 5th?
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Cool bro. Glad we agree that your post was dumb.“Ok bro”.
Yawn. Boring. We typically didn’t take the Europa league seriously, it was viewed by the club as an afterthought. It was also a harder competition back then - the gap between England and the rest of Europe’s middle & lower tier has grown, hence why we are seeing teams finish 15th, 16th, 17th but get to European finals.
Emery is a better squad builder. Compare money spent and wage bills. Ange spent a lot on the likes of Solanke and Johnson - his picks, awful players. He can’t coach a team properly. Villa have had injury crises and dealt with them, he has still consistently had Villa doing well in the league and elsewhere.
This season was going as well as last before sacking Frank. We were top 4 in the CL and 15th. It’s spiralled since. However, the relegation battle is much harder this season. We finished on 38 points last season, that tally is very likely to get you relegated this season. Ange would’ve been for the drop if he had faced off with West Ham and Forest for relegation and not Leicester and Ipswich.
Yeah, they sacked their shite managers lmao. Shite managers including the clown Ange who couldn’t win a game for them. Fuck me even Dyche came in and got a win at Porto. Vitor Pereira is a manager who was sacked at Wolves. He’s come in, had them one of the form teams in the league (smashing us, smashing Sunderland etc) WHILST navigating to a semi final in Europe, including beating top of the Portuguese league and a first leg win over Villa. Two vastly superior teams to anything we faced in the Europa League.
And he’s nothing more than average. Even if he wins the competition I wouldn’t want to hire him because the Europa league is no marker of a coaches quality.
Ange is LESS than average and the football world knows it. Off the back of his “huge” achievement he could only find a Greek led Forest to hire him, and they got rid very quickly for good reason. Now he’s left with nothing. Nobody rates him as much as you fanboys do, nobody important anyway..
Ange had two seasons here and built nothing. We got progressively worse under his leadership, nobody was developed or improved, the football got worse, the transfers were relatively big money but total rubbish, we looked progressively more chaotic and unstable the longer he was here. Clubs saw that and his stock rightly has collapsed.
The state we are in now is partly because Ange led the club so horrendously. Bad squad building, bad coaching, bad everything. What players ended up better than they began under him? None. Which players ended up with broken bodies and shattered confidence under him? How long have you fucking got..
Yeah we won a trophy. And he smashed the club to bits to win it, playing god awful shite and throwing away the league because he was lucky enough it was a very weak relegation battle. The guy can go fuck himself, Frank may have been ultimately a shit coach but Ange was completely unprofessional.
Nice rant
All that just because you got what you wanted and now we're on the cusp of relegation. Give yourself a round of applause!
Meanwhile our latest manager (the third since you got what you wanted) said in his first Presser that he wanted to see us playing AngeBall again. How fucking stupid does that make you look? No wonder you're becoming even more Deranged than you were last season
Speaking of bottom of the barrel, whats it like down there?
You were wrong.
Own it.
Other football clubs don’t agree.
I sincerely doubt there is one single thing you and I would agree on. Bro.Cool bro. Glad we agree that your post was dumb.
On the best night for Spurs since Bilbao one of the our favourite Derangers chose not to celebrate that amazing win but instead chose to focus on posting this:
And has since gone on to make more posts talking only about how last year was so much worse than this season.
This is all the Derangers have now. Crazy takes, obsessing about their crazy agenda, rather than just living in the moment of Spurs finally playing football and maybe, just maybe, getting out of the mess Derangers got us into.
But for the rest of us normal Spurs fans we finally have a chink of light at the end of the Dernager enforced tunnel-of-shit.
De Zerbi said he wanted us to play Ange Ball again and, by fucking Christ, did he mean it. A high press beautifully co-ordinated. One touch passing. Possession-based football. None of the coward ball they wanted - but proper football from first principles.
And the best bit? De Zerbi talking about his players. Reminding them that they are brilliant. Just like Postecoglou he can see - and bring out - the fighting qualities of Gallagher (another crime that we didn't sign the guy when Postecoglou wanted him ffs)... Bigging up Muani and Richy.
Making them BELIEVE.
Like they believed in winning us our third major European trophy.
We should never have sacked Postecoglou but in De Zerbi we've got the full package. We just need to protect him from Derangers who will turn on him at the first setback like the rabid frothers they are.
Ange would be proud. We have our Tottenham back.
And has since gone on to make more posts talking only about how last year was so much worse than this season.
This is all the Derangers have now. Crazy takes, obsessing about their crazy agenda, rather than just living in the moment of Spurs finally playing football and maybe, just maybe, getting out of the mess Derangers got us into.
But for the rest of us normal Spurs fans we finally have a chink of light at the end of the Dernager enforced tunnel-of-shit.
De Zerbi said he wanted us to play Ange Ball again and, by fucking Christ, did he mean it. A high press beautifully co-ordinated. One touch passing. Possession-based football. None of the coward ball they wanted - but proper football from first principles.
And the best bit? De Zerbi talking about his players. Reminding them that they are brilliant. Just like Postecoglou he can see - and bring out - the fighting qualities of Gallagher (another crime that we didn't sign the guy when Postecoglou wanted him ffs)... Bigging up Muani and Richy.
Making them BELIEVE.
Like they believed in winning us our third major European trophy.
We should never have sacked Postecoglou but in De Zerbi we've got the full package. We just need to protect him from Derangers who will turn on him at the first setback like the rabid frothers they are.
Ange would be proud. We have our Tottenham back.
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Great post as always, my friend, but slight point of order. Ange won us our fourth major European trophy.On the best night for Spurs since Bilbao one of the our favourite Derangers chose not to celebrate that amazing win but instead chose to focus on posting this:
And has since gone on to make more posts talking only about how last year was so much worse than this season.
This is all the Derangers have now. Crazy takes, obsessing about their crazy agenda, rather than just living in the moment of Spurs finally playing football and maybe, just maybe, getting out of the mess Derangers got us into.
But for the rest of us normal Spurs fans we finally have a chink of light at the end of the Dernager enforced tunnel-of-shit.
De Zerbi said he wanted us to play Ange Ball again and, by fucking Christ, did he mean it. A high press beautifully co-ordinated. One touch passing. Possession-based football. None of the coward ball they wanted - but proper football from first principles.
And the best bit? De Zerbi talking about his players. Reminding them that they are brilliant. Just like Postecoglou he can see - and bring out - the fighting qualities of Gallagher (another crime that we didn't sign the guy when Postecoglou wanted him ffs)... Bigging up Muani and Richy.
Making them BELIEVE.
Like they believed in winning us our third major European trophy.
We should never have sacked Postecoglou but in De Zerbi we've got the full package. We just need to protect him from Derangers who will turn on him at the chance like the rabid frothers they are.
Ange would be proud. We have our Tottenham back.
We have 2 UEFA cups, 1 Cup Winners Cup, and 1 Europa League, in our supposedly redundant trophy cabinet.
True. I am treating the Cup Winners Cup with the same disrespect Derangers treat Bilbao.
Our European heritage is a thing of joy and something the Scum dream of of having. Every single Trophy counts.
COYS!
Oh look, we aren’t going down now so the narrative has shifted from “you asked for this” to “this is Ange ball” even though it absolutely isn’t and “Ange ball” at the end was literally parking the bus and hoping to beat shite sides. De Zerbi playing vague lip service to essentially say “I want to attack” does not equate to Ange ball. We had more control and more solidity tonight than any game I saw of us under the fraud.
The “major” in “major European trophy” doing a lot of legwork btw. The final could be Forest-Freiburg this year (after a recent final of fucking Rangers-Frankfurt & 15th vs 17th) and people will still be saying “major” as if it means anything except in their own cope world. The only “major” European trophy is the champions league, everything else is a side show.
We knew this when we were in the CL. Every team knows this when they are in the CL.
The “major” in “major European trophy” doing a lot of legwork btw. The final could be Forest-Freiburg this year (after a recent final of fucking Rangers-Frankfurt & 15th vs 17th) and people will still be saying “major” as if it means anything except in their own cope world. The only “major” European trophy is the champions league, everything else is a side show.
We knew this when we were in the CL. Every team knows this when they are in the CL.
This is a little premature no? Sure, it was a great couple of results over the weekend, and the direction of travel seems to have shifted, but it could easily change back again. We aren't out of the brown stuff just yet.
It was a terrific performance tonight, no doubt, but we had plenty that were just as good under Postecoglou, you just choose not to remember them.
I could also resort to your usual tactic of denigrating our opponents. Aston Villa clearly had their mind on other things this evening, (and who could blame them?)
Had they been on their game it could have been quite a different outcome, but I'm in too good a mood to be churlish, so I'll let it go.
It's fascinating how you continue to take every opportunity to run down, virtually every trophy we've ever won.
Part of the whole point of the game is winning silverware. Do you think fans of other clubs pooh-pooh any trophy that isn't a Champions League or a Premier League title?
Do you think Palace or Newcastle turned their noses up at their respective cup wins last season? Even Chelsea were delighted to win the Conference Cup, despite them having won every trophy possible over the last two decades.
Villa clearly think the Europa League is a tournament worth winning too, or they wouldn't have put out a second string side tonight, nor put in such a lacklustre performance, so as to
keep plenty in reserve for Thursday.
No wonder so many people think you're a Woolwich fan, when you demonstrate such an aversion to winning trophies.