If a man that earns £15m a year would have his team concede seven goals to Leicester after shifting to two CB's (which is what I was told would likely be the case), then yes, he's fucking awful.
If that's oddball then I can't help you.
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If that's oddball then I can't help you.
If that's what you conclude from my post then you yourself can't be helped.
(Your prev. post is loaded with gymnastic logic merely in order to prop up your insistence that 2CBs will improve us.)
I haven't quite known how to absorb his comments either, but since the tantrum he threw after the Burnley loss last season he has always made some effort to strike a note about this being a longer term project.
The reality of Conte's situation is that there's no club waiting to give him a comparable salary and comparable resources to Spurs.
Both parties to this marriage feel a bit frustrated and trapped, IMO.
It's all coming to a head with Conte, Kane, and of course Paratici as well. Whatever happens will seem like it was inevitable in retrospect, but at this moment who knows.
De Zerbi is a bit of a nut who seems like he might struggle under brighter lights but I'd be all over Thomas Frank.
His tactics fit the squad he'd be inheriting, Brentford have continually improved over the course of his tenure there, and in tactics and manner he just has a bit of the old Spurs derring-do about him.
Indeed. Only caveat I'd add to this is that he chose to come here rather than chill and take the sabbatical he said he wanted. ........Something must have appealed to him from a footballing perspective.
As I said in my OG post; I think the idea of having a deeper impact on a club than spend/trophy/leave genuinely appealed to him.... To begin with at least.
You could see from some of the videos surrounding his appointment that Levy went full red-carpet to get him... You can imagine the sweet nothings that were being whispered; "We need a legend like you to elevate this fine club into being one of the greatest in the world... We have a crown without a jewel" yadda yadda. If we'd merely broken significant financial promises to him over backing; he'd be gone already.
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He's got to go. I tried not to be knee jerk about it after the Nuno and Mourinho cockups. Either the guy doesn't care or doesn't know what to do.
It's not just one or two mistakes, the number of fuck ups is getting ridiculous. We're on track to have one of the worst defensive records in the club's entire history. We're conceding at a rate comparable to relegation fodder.
Worst of all, there's nothing to indicate he is even trying to change things.
It's not just one or two mistakes, the number of fuck ups is getting ridiculous. We're on track to have one of the worst defensive records in the club's entire history. We're conceding at a rate comparable to relegation fodder.
Worst of all, there's nothing to indicate he is even trying to change things.
No. You're being ridiculous. My argument is that can it really get any worse? We play 3 CB's despite the fact that they are the weakest players in the squad.
Have a lie down, sir.
Thats the thing for me, he hasnt really tried anything different. Kulu at wingback to get another decent forward player in , 2 centre backs so we can pack the midfield and limit the shite at the back, dropping Son for a few games, trying Spence, Emerson as a right sided centre back etc etc These may or may not work but try and mix it up a bit and maybe you might hit on some solutions but there's nothing, just the same game in game out.
Yes it can and likely would (besides isn't "not any worse" a fools target?).
For the foreseeable; the best 433 we could likely field is:
XXX / Romero / Davies / XXX
Sarr / Skipp / PEH
(....with no other MFs on the bench)
We play 3CBs; not exclusively because it's Conte's preferred system, but because we arguably don't have a single CB that is suited to a flat back 4 (Romero being the only one worthy of such a debate).Sarr / Skipp / PEH
(....with no other MFs on the bench)
2 of the 3 of them are the weakest players in our starting lineup.
But the weakest players in our squad are the players we'd be forced to play as back 4 fullbacks.
All formation talk is out the window now for whatever period we're without Bissouma. 3-4-3 is the only option with the players currently available.
The question is what the hell we do during the periods Perisic can't be on the pitch, which will be many.
Maybe swap Royal in and push Porro up into an oddball interchangey 4-2-3-1?
Forster
Royal Romero Dier Davies
Hojbjerg Skipp
Porro Kulusevski Son
Kane
I must admit that this has really surprised me. Last season we did well to get top four but this season has just been a disappointment from the start. For all his reputation for being an amazing manager, he really isn’t showing he can turn things around when they aren’t going for him tactically.
Just don’t see how to fill in those XXXs. The only full back we have left is Royal. Romero/ Dier might work with Davies back to a LB.
Well it quickly becomes it's own debate (which I initially intended to dodge above).
I guess Doherty is no loss on that front and Reg isn't much cop defensively..... Perhaps Sessengon might be half useful as a 'stay at home' LB? ......Tanganga?
....But you're right. Truth is we don't have the quality of FBs or CBs to play a back 4.
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I agree. It's a bit early to judge De Zerbi but Frank has more than proven that he can operate at a high level. I'm not too sure what it would take to tempt him away from Brentford but I'm sure quite a few clubs would be interested if he indicated that he could be tempted by a bigger club.
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Forget those names at the bottom, they were never coming, same as De Ligt who the Fraud told us he could get us.
The real damning thing was we chased Perr Schuurs, a young Dutch international and the greasy fraud said, no thanks, rather than pay £22million for an up and coming player, I'd rather pay a loan fee and huge wages to get someone the parent club is desperate to get rid of.
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He did come in with a reputation of being a stubborn manager in love with his back 3 formation.
What he's doing here goes so far beyond that. I mean, how do you explain not dropping Son despite basically being the worst winger in the PL this season?
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The Son WB was mental however the Brighton 3 was in that time when the squad was slowly dying. Hugo's colossal fuck alongside Toby living on a reputation over current ability screwed us over.
Poch got things wrong, the biggest of which was not clearing his head and getting focused on the league after the ECL defeat. It coursed through the team and they lost all belief.
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For me Poch doesn't have the great footballing mind of someone like Pep, Mou, Klopp etc. he seems quite bad at organising a defence. He probably under achieved given the squads he had.
I still don't care, I want to at least enjoy the act of watching my team play, even if the final score is disappointing.