Maybe. It's hard not to project in some way when Conte is saying so much and not being entirely direct with his comments.
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Manager Antonio Conte
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Maybe. It's hard not to project in some way when Conte is saying so much and not being entirely direct with his comments.
I think 95% of us would be extremely glad to have him stay as long as he wants, I'd love it personally!
But if he walks in under a year without even seeing one transfer window thru, then it's just not a fit with where the club are at. I'm not suggesting he sticks around for a long-term project, obviously he's not that type of manager and of course the club knows that too.
But the squad can't just magically improve or get new players midseason. We got him two players in January that are already in the starting 11. Leaving now wouldn't even be giving the club a chance to back him.
If he wants to leave in August or September, fair play to him. Once again, I think 95% of us would agree if it is a disappointing window. But walking now would be horseshit IMO and clearly just quitting on the club with the goal of taking a bigger opening in the summer because he doesn't want to be part of the processs of improving a club in a tough spot. It wasn't any secret we were shit, he took the 15m/year and joined anyway. I'm not asking unlimited patience, or even significant patience, but you've gotta at least wait through summer.
You could just accept that we don’t have a clue because there is so much contradictory information.
He's always been emotional and has a history of wild outbursts. He's talked himself out of both the Chelsea and Inter jobs, despite significant success and investment. It's who he is and he never leaves clubs on great terms, which is fine and we should all be prepared for it at some point in the future.
But come on, leaving us now, less than 4 months in, before a summer window would be ridiculous. You took over a team that finished 7th and is on pace to do the same again, you can't be THIS shocked at the quality.
I hope he's just trying to build leverage with Levy for the summer, but if he leaves before summer, then he was never serious about us or was extremely dishonest with himself about the challenge he was facing in accepting this job.
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Up until today, I would agree with you. I'm not so sure anymore.
One thing is certain, the status quo won't do it for either party. Levy has a massive challenge here, because whilst Conte leaving in and of itself would be tragic, in the long term what message does that send to potential signings, managers etc.
The reputational damage that would inflict on the "brand" would set us back years.
Sad state of affairs we are in. The media frenzy doesn't help either.
Possibly, but when the manager is saying the fans 'deserve better', is suggesting he may not be the right man for the job, and is already saying he needs to talk to the club regarding his future, then speculation will be there.
Is the information contradictory? Yes. But this is the most up to date information we have on how he feels at the club.
Storm in a teacup. Until the next high. And the following low.
The latter increasingly becoming more common than the former..
But if that's the case, then we'd have a pretty bipolar manager on our hands, which wouldn't be ideal. I don't think either scenario (Conte doing this as a ploy, or Conte being reactionary) are particularly encouraging if you're a fan of the club.
But anyway, it is what it is .. and as you say, on to the next.
Totally agreed, it'd be a reputational disaster for the club, which doesn't exactly have the best reputation at the baseline. Where would we even go from there? We'd be on our fifth manager in less than 12 months.
It's impossible to know what's happening behind the scenes, but Levy needs to do whatever he can to hold Conte until the summer and hope he's satiated by our summer business. He has no alternative.
I still think it'd be pretty shit for Conte to walk now. It's really not too much to ask to wait for one summer window and a full year before quitting. It's not a big ask whatsoever.
I don’t see how Levy’s reputation could survive Conte walking. He will never, ever get a manager as good as Conte. As it stands there’s only a handful of them out there and they’re all managing clubs bigger than ours.
One of the messages it will send out, is if Levy wouldn’t back Antonio Conte. Is he really going to back anyone else? No. There is a summer transfer window coming up in a few months, so we’ll see.
As you say, I hope Conte stays for the summer and I hope he’s given what he wants. If he doesn’t get what he wants then A) he’ll probably just walk before the season starts or B) he’ll see the season out and tell the club to fuck off when they ask him to extend.
Not to mention Kane. At this rate there is fuck all chance he’ll be sitting there quietly over the summer. I imagine it’ll be ten times worse than last year. Will Conte really want to go into another season with a shit squad minus Kane? Fuck no.
You're not wrong, but I think Conte's takes a hit as well. Not as bad as the club/Levy, but it would be awfully shitty for him to walk without at least the summer to see what backing he could get.
Even with this I don't think he's walking at all at least until the summer and that would be dependent on how the club responds. Think about how mad we are with this run of form, and I'm assuming it's eating him up inside. He's already said that he is miserable to be around after a loss, and we're starting to see that in action.
I'm glad. I hope it ruffles a few things in both the boardroom and through the team. The players are being called out as much as Levy.
He will walk in to another 15m a year job in the summer if he walks.
When have you actually shown support?
im done if he goes fuck enic
Exactly but Conte is too stubborn to admit he’s getting it all wrong and switch things up to improve the play. Everyone realizes but him
squad not changed or refreshed, levy and enic not willing to spend to address that
top 3 manager in world football giving up
the only thing that needs going is enic, they are the poison that is slowly killing the club just like mike ashley did at newcastle
sure we can sayhes getting paid 15 millbut fuck me our team is shit you cant polish turds eventually you need to flush the shit away for good
where do we go if conte resigns, we get another yes man happy with the squad for the next 5 yrs
no im tired of this bullshit we will never ever win anything as long as enic is here
they need to fuck off for good
top 3 manager in world football giving up
the only thing that needs going is enic, they are the poison that is slowly killing the club just like mike ashley did at newcastle
sure we can sayhes getting paid 15 millbut fuck me our team is shit you cant polish turds eventually you need to flush the shit away for good
where do we go if conte resigns, we get another yes man happy with the squad for the next 5 yrs
no im tired of this bullshit we will never ever win anything as long as enic is here
they need to fuck off for good
Lots of people saying they’re done if conte goes. You gonna become Chelsea fans? We all know you’ll still be here complaining as per
I think this past January transfer window made Conte insecure about any summer promises. Him not joining last summer, and instead joining mid season before winter window with all the hype about January transfer window; it looks like there was plenty of promises in place. I doubt that it's pure coincidence when that interview occurred after the January window.
Then we know that Conte walked out of Juventus despite they were on the rise at the time because disagreement on transfer. Conte is not Klopp. He's not here for project. He has goal for each season, and demands to have the best backing for each season. His way of working. You can't say he's wrong in this relationship. This is more to do with the people at this club that choose and persuade him to come here. They should be well aware of this situation, since it's common knowledge for even regular fan, and especially with Paratici who personally worked with Conte previously.
Also for a transfer to go through, more often than not, the ground work is underway during the season. As per the rule, clubs can legally hold talk with players' agents whose contract running out in the summer now. Clubs going behind selling clubs' back illegally talk with agents all the time too. Conte keeps saying he talks with Paratici everyday. Perhaps Conte knows that we're not preparing/doing enough right now to have the summer window that Conte expects?
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