He'll have good offers at rich clubs who are better than 7th/8th.
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Manager Antonio Conte
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I think Levy just finances who he’s told to. I remember Sugar saying something similar.
Probably every coach in world football bar PSG, City and the Spanish clubs know the Mbappes, Messis etc are out of their bracket. So, it’s who they ask for and then the finance people do what they can. GLC paid up when Jose asked; Tanguy still on our books as Poch asked; Sess still playing from Poch’s day; PEH on and KWP out; Coco gone as Nuno didn’t fancy him; four out this January.
Nothing could be done about Traore (Barca offering a lower amount but the player choosing then over us because Barca; Dias accepted but took a lower offer from Liverpool).
Let’s get real, we are currently in the situation of having to overpay for Europa league standard players, or continue searching for the diamond needle in a haystack.
On the plus side - Romero, Benta and Kulu look decent additions to the team / squad - Gil is a good prospect for a different style or selling on and there’s space in the squad for additions come summer. Conte’s teams are technical, Jose assembled a team of thugs - it’s different styles and we’re only a few months through the change.
It's all a storm in a teacup if you ask me. He's frustrated about losing. Could he just be albs trying to deflect attention and pressure off his players and onto him because they've lost yet another game?
He wouldn't be the first manager to do that.
He’d also probably want to get rid of half of their team of overpaid premadonnas.
Who? There are not many places for him to go now unless it is back to Juventus I cannot see anyone else really wanting him.
People rather blame one of our best players than dare blame levy/enic. Support levy/enic being happy with just top 6 & no trophies but surprised your best players don’t stay motivated for that & aren’t super happy at top 4 trophy every few years for their whole career. I told everyone people will pick levy over Kane & got laughed at. It came to fruition. Some People will pick levy over anyone no matter. Our best coaches & players, nope… levy comes first. Then suprised we still crap whilst he is running things.
But its not entirely about the financial model - we spent £150m in summer 2019 to find the players mentality/commitment from Ndomblele and Lo Celso was not enough.
And summers 2016 to 2019 I don't recall anybody but 'squad level players' coming - the best of whom are probably Sanchez (despite a hefty fee), Moura and Bergwijn (just not lived up to expectation), despite quite a lot of money being spent .
So its the poorly spent money from 2016 onwards which is a huge problem - as Conte has also said.
Still think PSG would, Juve a possibility. Regardless i feel he's a proud bloke that hates losing so dont see him hanging around just to pick up his wedge whilst his reputation gets shredded.
Really? I don't see that at all. Those blaming the manager probably aren't looking at the whole picture but probably just the recent downturn in form. I cant think for a minute anyone is seriously blaming Conte for the shitshow of the last 4/5 years. If they have then they must be pretty wet behind the ears. It is obvious to all and sundry where the real blame lies.
People blaming the players isn't letting ENIC off the hook either btw.
I’d be amazed if Poch makes it to next season at PSG (unless they win CL) - but I’d also be surprised if he comes back to EPL - seemed to wait an age on gardening leave (may have been about the payout) so clearly quite picky about the jobs he takes. FWIW, I don’t see him at Utd - he’ll have had enough of the overpaid over-rated players from his time I. Paris.
Absolutely - but some of the infrastructure has changed - I’ve put it elsewhere but - finger crossed - Paratici’s players for Conte seem a better fit than those that Hitchen / Poch picked.
If true, there is even less to worry about ! Then the other unsaid bit would be that Conte is backing himself to manage the existing players better and to get better results - that would have to be the natural follow on to what you are saying
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The truth is we're in a wonderful little cycle of shitness at present and NO-ONE is exempt from the blame. Not Son, not Kane and not Conte.
But the problems start and end with ENIC and Levy who are letting us drift far away from where we aspire to be.
We know we'll not give Conte what he wants. Why? Because we know he'll want it every transfer window thereafter.
So what we desperately need for the job is a pure man manager, someone who can take a ragtag bunch of misfits and make the sum of the parts into a coherent unit.
Does that person exist and even if they do...would they want to come to Spurs?
Yeah plenty are picking enic/levy as you can see on these pages unfortunately.
It’s all pointless debating the points you mentions as unless levy/enic go or drastically change we are stuck being 2nd best. Well a lot lower than that. So by all means spend another year of debating the finer points but it will all end up not being enough whilst we are stuck with levy & enic. & you can all be super shocked every season when it doesn’t work out. But for me it’s clear that they will keep holding us back. So until they go it don’t really matter. We might scrape the old 4th every now & then but that will be as much as outside the top 3 being a mess too.
Enic won’t/can’t do what’s required & as you say they over value us so no one is buying us. They put their profit over success. They weren’t good enough/lacked the hunger to take us to the next level. It was too much for them. They failed & will keep failing.
They think levy is doing a good job despite the facts.
If you are really interested in moving forward then it has to be them both going. It’s the only way.
Every single person on here can see that we need a better MF and WBs to break down masses teams. We have the defend and counter sorted but there’s only so many teams do that against us.
I see Conte’s comments about us playing as a relegation team about confidence and - if anything - aimed at Sess, Royal, PEH and Winks who made little effort to attack. There’s no confidence in those positions - Dier leads the back, Kane the front, but nothing in this transitions. Maybe Bentancur but there’s no-one else to move the ball quickly or direct traffic and so we are always passive and reactive. Too many followers in those positions, waiting to be told what to do.
I do. It’s probably more comforting to think it’s just your managers fault or winks etc then think shit, our owners & chairman are crap & we are going nowhere under them.
I think the enic out protests at the stadium ain’t even at triple figures yet. Hardly people clamouring to protest & a stand against enic. Instead they go & pay & blame kane or conte or winks.
I posted a bit of the interview earlier where he says maybe he cant get more out of the players and maybe he isn't that good. Then he smirked. Told me everything I needed to know about what he was up to. It's all a game.