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Manager Antonio Conte
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Yeah so how many shots were from outside the area?
All well and good saying that we concede a fuck load of shots but how many were from dangerous areas?
Whilst people wet the bed over last night, let's take a look back at this moment in time
Chelsea, under the stewarship of none other than Conte, were looking for their 14th win in a row.
They had a few early shots but were largely outrun and out hustled and lost 2-0, await to a team below them in the league. A team who stayed below them in the league all season. A season where Chelsea ultimately won the league.
We have done this to title winners over the years. They came to our gaff and got blitzed. Maybe the tables are turning. Maybe we go away to a lower team and they beat us, they get to brag but by the end of the season it means nothing.....
Chelsea, under the stewarship of none other than Conte, were looking for their 14th win in a row.
They had a few early shots but were largely outrun and out hustled and lost 2-0, await to a team below them in the league. A team who stayed below them in the league all season. A season where Chelsea ultimately won the league.
We have done this to title winners over the years. They came to our gaff and got blitzed. Maybe the tables are turning. Maybe we go away to a lower team and they beat us, they get to brag but by the end of the season it means nothing.....
I agree with your last paragraph but Dier isn’t rock solid and never has been
Davies and PEH are workmanlike squad players at best
Even if they were from outside the area, the problem is that if you keep on conceding that many shots, it will eventually catch up to you and those chances will go in. Like the goals we conceded against chelsea and Woolwich. Or the lucky deflections like Fred's goal yesterday.
Thats fine if you want to compete for top 4. But I'll say it again, you cannot compete for titles playing like that. I really hope that allowing this many shots isn't part of the plan.
Wonder if Miguel thinks the earth is flat too.
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Just write what I noticed yesterday at the game against United - I hope you don't blame me for interfering with Hotspur's internals as an "outsider"?!!
Conte's behavior is incomprehensible to me.
No emotion at all (I don't expect him tearing down the stadium or walking around foaming at the mouth...
I'm surprised that he doesn't make any move to show that yesterday was not at all - let alone a good - team performance.
Could have freaked out in front of the TV! (For that, Newcastle Arabia is lathered and shaved!)
Conte's behavior is incomprehensible to me.
No emotion at all (I don't expect him tearing down the stadium or walking around foaming at the mouth...
I'm surprised that he doesn't make any move to show that yesterday was not at all - let alone a good - team performance.
Could have freaked out in front of the TV! (For that, Newcastle Arabia is lathered and shaved!)
Maybe it's the players or maybe it's Conte... Or a bit of both... But:
- Too often when we do have the chance to break we're ponderous. By the time we get to the half-way line we slow up and give the oppo too much time to regroup.
- A lot of the time the oppo are pre-empting our passes and are within touching distance to intercept.... Yet way too often we're too far away from x or y oppo player to realistically engage them.
- Virtually EVERY throw-in we get goes backwards and thus immediately grants the opportunity to push out on us..... This has been going on for years now so fuck knows why; but it does my fuckin' head in!
- Ditto the non-existent movement on throw-ins.
- Too often when we do have the chance to break we're ponderous. By the time we get to the half-way line we slow up and give the oppo too much time to regroup.
- A lot of the time the oppo are pre-empting our passes and are within touching distance to intercept.... Yet way too often we're too far away from x or y oppo player to realistically engage them.
- Virtually EVERY throw-in we get goes backwards and thus immediately grants the opportunity to push out on us..... This has been going on for years now so fuck knows why; but it does my fuckin' head in!
- Ditto the non-existent movement on throw-ins.
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It's a theory mate.
It's also not unheard of and is done by other managers. Right now it's thought that Klopp is doing it and during the pandemic Pep did it (he did it at Barca too) and of cause it's what Poch did every single season when he was here (he conditioned his teams to peak during Christmas and new year).
Best be the mutherfuckin case
There's literally no other explanation, otherwise we are f'd.
When you don't value possession this is what happens
Yep. Better sides obviously have better strikers so whether the chances are in or outside the box they are going to score if you give them 20+ efforts. We can get away with it against Forest, Wolves, Brighton and Everton because they have nothing up front (see Evertons two 1 on 1's).
No one will really know until after the World Cup. I don't know Conte well enough to know if he's done this before or not. But 100% Poch did this with us every single year, we started really slowly and then blitzed teams around Christmas and new year (whilst others struggled).
This is frightening stuff. Some absolute choppers on Twitter this morning defending this as well.
There has to be some explanation for the drop off in intensity between last season and this......
I mean, we've actually had a proper pre-season with Conte (much fabled fitness training included!) and we have signed reinforcements, but look way less convincing; especially on the break (which was our forte last season)....
Yeah I remember up until November we struggled with our intensity then after that we stepped it up.
Nah mate, didnt you hear? We're a counterattacking side thats what we should expect. As long as the xG calculator says that the chances of those shots going in is .001% we're fine.
If we had won 13 straight, no one would be complaining.