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Manager Antonio Conte

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I don't know if playing them because we have two injured and one suspended midfielder "trust". He had to, pure and simple. I don't believe for a second that if any of those three were available that they were on the bench.

Trust would be Conte playing them in a game when he wasn't literally forced to.

Yea, it is even worse though.
He had to use them when Bentancur was injured before.

And the did well. And injected side with more energy and passion.

But as soon as there was slightest of options from older players, they were nailed to end of bench again.

However well they do, PEH will be 1st name in midfield and whenever Bissouma returns, they both will be dropped this same second. But by how things are looking now, there will be new guy in charge by time Bissouma will return. I hope that new one has the very needed ability to explain what is expected from Yves as well.
 
Don't think I've ever seen you this fired up
Angry Hocus Pocus GIF
 
Jesus fucking christ on a bike!

Conte is competing in the CL NOT the google it trophy name. He lost against Mura because he had only just fucking taken over the team in the worst state it's been as a direct result of the mismanagement of the dinosaur.

We are better under Conte than when we were under the dinosaur, on account of:
1. 4th is a better position than both 6th & 7th!! (our worst league finish is 14yrs!!!)
2. We score more goals than under the dinosaur
3. Conceed fewer goals than under the dinosaur
4. achieved more points than under the dinosaur
5. We qualified for CL where the dinosaur failed TWICE
6. His win % at Spurs was 51% (the worst performing manager in the last decade, worse than AVB! Conte as at end of Jan was 56% the highest win % of any Tottenham manager in the past 124yrs!!).

He absolutely was hired to have Roma win the league, it's why they spent the most money on players over €100m in his first season and why he's paid so much (Spurs are still paying for this cunts salary too). No club invests this much, the biggest transfer spend in Serie A, to finish 1 point and 1 place higher than the previous manager, who was also on a salary £16m LESS than him!!!! The realistic expectation would have been 4th, he FAILED to deliver this.

Levy didn't lie to the dinosaur, in his first Spurs Press Conf he said the squad he inherited could win the league (it consisted of numerous players he had converted and had actively tried to previously buy - the first thing he did was secure those players to new deals). He was backed totally by the Club, no manager in our history has spent as much money prior to his arrival!!

In fact, the lie was all on him. Who said he was going to play a different style of football at Spurs than his turgid anti-football all his teams play. Cunt had us playing the worst football I've ever seen us play in the 50ys I've supported the Club and my god that takes some doing.

Now please trott off to Mourista fan club shrine where you can wank over his past glories he achieved a decade or so ago. But honestly coming on here claiming utter falsehood is making you look like a complete and utter tool.

Haha... "jesus christ on a bike", "thick as pig shit" and I believe it was you who said that "watching Spurs under Conte feels like making tea with forgetting to turn on the kettle" :D . You have your way around words for sure.

And I have to say - I agree with you in the sense that we were as bad if not worse under Mou than we are now under Conte. Clearly this is not a debate about Mou being brilliant and Conte poor... both of them are shit.

But you put some things really over the top in your answers and it makes it hard to take you seriously -
3. Conceed fewer goals than under the dinosaur - that is obviously not true. In 19/20 and 20/21 we conceded 47 and 45 goals respectively. That is ~1.2 goals per game. This season we have played 23 and conceded 35. That is 1,5 goals per game. And that is flattering, considering that from 11th-23rd round we average OVER TWO GOALS per game. So we never were as shit defensively under Mou than we are under Conte.
6. Win percentage - it is bit odd to phrase it like "51% = worse than any manager over decade" ; "56% = best in 124 years" - why not compare comparables.
UPDATED figures are in fact - that Conte has won 55,07% so 38 times from 69 games. In all time list, Conte is nr 3 in overall win percentage (just 0,07% ahead of AVB) and Mou is 7th. Hardly like one being best and other worst.
When we look actually EPL games (to keep things comparable; other leagues are variable) - then stats are -
Conte - 51 games, 29 wins, 8 draws, 14 losses. Win percentage 56,86, ppg 1,86. Goal difference 102:59; on average 2 goals scored, 1,15 conceded.
Mourinho- 58 games, 27 wins, 14 draws, 17 losses. Win percentage 46,55, ppg 1,64. Goal difference 97:67; on average 1,67 goals scored, 1,15 conceded.

On Mou and Roma spending - current season on net terms they have sold for 58,1 mil more than the brought. Last year it was -110,4 mil so across his two seasons actual net spenditure of the club is 52,3 million euros.

One summer of spending 110 mil for club like Roma is hardly something so very extraordinay as you try to make it look. And from the time Mou took over AS Roma total expenditure is globally in 26th place with 135,55 mil EUR and in net spenditure (mentioned 52,3 mil) they also happen to be on 26th position. In Italy in the same period they are not even close to be biggest spenders. AC Milan has spent 123 mil EUR on net terms (and also won the league last year) with Juventus also comfortably ahead of Roma with 61,2 mil net spent. On gross spending for same period they are fourth with mentioned two heavyweights ahead and also Atalanta.

So your claims like he would be the biggest spender in Serie A is not true. Also just using one window as reference is pretty much pointless. You cannot make enough of a change with one window if competitors are positioned much better at the start.
 
I keep seeing people say they don’t want Poch back, but why?

We all know why he left last time but there were so many reasons for that. I wasn’t enjoying the football the last 6 months but it was better than now.

I personally don't want him back as the last year of his reign was pretty rough.

But I guess the difference between Poch and anybody else (including Conte) is that he genuinely wants to be here. Who else is lifting their skirt for the Spurs fans? Conte certainly isn't.
 

Speaking to Sky Sport Italia and MediaSet, the Dane said: “Kane was the first problem to face on every Tottenham move. It was important to block him off and then press the others.

“We were ready for a lot of their moves and did what we prepared in training. We knew exactly what they were going to do.”
Just shows how easy we are to play against
 
Haha... "jesus christ on a bike", "thick as pig shit" and I believe it was you who said that "watching Spurs under Conte feels like making tea with forgetting to turn on the kettle" :D . You have your way around words for sure.

And I have to say - I agree with you in the sense that we were as bad if not worse under Mou than we are now under Conte. Clearly this is not a debate about Mou being brilliant and Conte poor... both of them are shit.

But you put some things really over the top in your answers and it makes it hard to take you seriously -
3. Conceed fewer goals than under the dinosaur - that is obviously not true. In 19/20 and 20/21 we conceded 47 and 45 goals respectively. That is ~1.2 goals per game. This season we have played 23 and conceded 35. That is 1,5 goals per game. And that is flattering, considering that from 11th-23rd round we average OVER TWO GOALS per game. So we never were as shit defensively under Mou than we are under Conte.
6. Win percentage - it is bit odd to phrase it like "51% = worse than any manager over decade" ; "56% = best in 124 years" - why not compare comparables.
UPDATED figures are in fact - that Conte has won 55,07% so 38 times from 69 games. In all time list, Conte is nr 3 in overall win percentage (just 0,07% ahead of AVB) and Mou is 7th. Hardly like one being best and other worst.
When we look actually EPL games (to keep things comparable; other leagues are variable) - then stats are -
Conte - 51 games, 29 wins, 8 draws, 14 losses. Win percentage 56,86, ppg 1,86. Goal difference 102:59; on average 2 goals scored, 1,15 conceded.
Mourinho- 58 games, 27 wins, 14 draws, 17 losses. Win percentage 46,55, ppg 1,64. Goal difference 97:67; on average 1,67 goals scored, 1,15 conceded.

On Mou and Roma spending - current season on net terms they have sold for 58,1 mil more than the brought. Last year it was -110,4 mil so across his two seasons actual net spenditure of the club is 52,3 million euros.

One summer of spending 110 mil for club like Roma is hardly something so very extraordinay as you try to make it look. And from the time Mou took over AS Roma total expenditure is globally in 26th place with 135,55 mil EUR and in net spenditure (mentioned 52,3 mil) they also happen to be on 26th position. In Italy in the same period they are not even close to be biggest spenders. AC Milan has spent 123 mil EUR on net terms (and also won the league last year) with Juventus also comfortably ahead of Roma with 61,2 mil net spent. On gross spending for same period they are fourth with mentioned two heavyweights ahead and also Atalanta.roma's transfer

So your claims like he would be the biggest spender in Serie A is not true. Also just using one window as reference is pretty much pointless. You cannot make enough of a change with one window if competitors are positioned much better at the start.
No, it wasn't me that said that, I've no idea where the fuck you've got that from and why you attribute that to me. So I guess that renders a lot of what you are typing as pointless.

So really is it worth me reading the rest of your post? I supposed I must.

I'm not making any such claim pro or against the two managers, other than disputing what this Jose lover is saying. He is literally here because we lost last night, he's not even a fucking Spurs supporter, he's a Jose supporter, you know the ones' those uber cunts swamping our forums and messages boards bigging up their man whilst shitting on our Club, who are now never to be seen again despite pledging allegiance to the Club. They are the cancer of football support. Now they feel cocky little cunts because Juve has been docked points and by default, they are now 4th on +2 GD they now think it's safe to come out from behind the curtain for the first time in a couple of years.

I wasn't talking about THIS SEASON when I wrote that about the points and goals fella, why? Because we have not finished this one yet!! I'm only going by the seasons the dinosaur was here vs Conte's one where he got us into the CL. That's quite obvious if you care to take the time to actually read a post.

The win % are what they are, they are factual and as you rightly say the dinosaur is fucking 7th!! I bet you were pissed off that Conte wasn't less but here we are with the facts. Thank you too for going to the trouble of working out all the other numbers, your additional work merely underlined that he was worse in every single additional metric your calculated with the exception of gaols conceded which is identical!! If you think there is nothing to split between then don't bother bringing me into this, you are wasting your time.

I didn't even use the words "extraordinary" when mentioning Roma's transfer spend, I stated factually what it was, the highest spend in Serie A. That's it. They outspent all their rivals in the league when he arrived at Roma. Yet despite doing so he finished 1 place higher with just 1 point more. Not really worth the investment of his salary nor that of the spend on players. If you think otherwise fill your boots and worship him as a massive success and just want what Roma bosses were expecting.

I then combined his first seasons spent with the following winter and summer windows (I didn't have this winter's figures available to me) and they spent the highest combined over this period which is a total of €138.6m, maybe Atalanta had snuck in there and topped that but I can't confirm what they paid for Boga (either €12m or €25m or anywhere in between???).

Please don't bother to respond I wasn't debating anything with you in the first place, if you wish to hold hands with this palaeontologist and wank off the dinosaur then be my guest.
 
I literally expected a club statement today with conte leaving us. He looks so disinterested in this project and is showing on the pitch. We are truly in for a rough rest of the season
 
Why does it take an injury crisis for Conte to realise he can trust Skipp and Sarr?

How about this radical new idea called rotation?

Maybe if he tried this he'd also trust Richarlison and Danjuma by this point
Because Conte is the sort of prick who would have dropped all the young United players back in the day because he never got to spend money on them.
 
Because Conte is the sort of prick who would have dropped all the young United players back in the day because he never got to spend money on them.
Genuinely seems like he fucked off Spence cos he didn't get to spend £40m+ on him. Now Porro is here, and well, how confident are we that Conte will start using him?
 
Maddison would have cost around 70-80m but you know hes worth it. What has richy done to justify a 60m price tag?
I mean, if our scouts had the bollocks and our club was up to much, about 5 years ago we'd have had the player for £20m.

Perhaps young Alex Scott at Bristol City might be one we don't miss out on.

My fellow Bristol city folk absolutely love him. And as said many a time on here, he's a Yid
 
More to the point why did he buy richarlison? Could have bought maddison instead.
Maddison would have cost around 70-80m but you know hes worth it. What has richy done to justify a 60m price tag?
We should have got Maddison AND Porro. This is what proper clubs do. Maddison slots straight into that creative midfield role the next day and completely changes the game.

FFS! When are you fuckers (and the others just like you) gonna just accept that after THREE trf windows Conte didn't get a CAM cos Conte didn't one..... Not even a cheap or loan one through the door in THREE windows!!!

It’s as simple as that. Levy simply doesnt want to spend the money.

It's got nothing to do with money... You honestly think Levy gives a fuck if he blows 60m on a ST vs a CAM???

FFS; not a slither of doubt that every one of you bitched about not having a decent back up ST and now everyone wants to act like we didn't need one so they can use Richy as a stick to beat their chosen villain (be that Conte or Levy).

Seriously..... Fuck off with that bullshit.
 
FFS! When are you fuckers (and the others just like you) gonna just accept that after THREE trf windows Conte didn't get a CAM cos Conte didn't one..... Not even a cheap or loan one through the door in THREE windows!!!



It's got nothing to do with money... You honestly think Levy gives a fuck if he blows 60m on a ST vs a CAM???

FFS; not a slither of doubt that every one of you bitched about not having a decent back up ST and now everyone wants to act like we didn't need one so they can use Richy as a stick to beat their chosen villain (be that Conte or Levy).

Seriously..... Fuck off with that bullshit.
No one believes this, only you still peddling this claptrap that Conte simply doesn't want players.

It was an absolute hardmode quest just getting Porro. But yeah Im sure Conte turned down Maddison.

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I’m sure he’ll use him. I’m just not sure that he’s miles different to what Spence would’ve offered. Or that it was the best way for us to spend £40m
That seems like the logical conclusion, but Conte makes you more nervous about it than you should have to be.

Could he pull another Richarlison, Skipp/Sarr, Spence, Bissouma (who tbh has been poor) type stunt? Who knows.
 
I do wish he would play a 3-5-2 once in a while. Our first game at home vs Leicester it's only when we changed to a 3-5-2 in the second half and Sonny game on as a Striker that we took over the game. Why didn't we start that way vs them last weekend, I don't know. It's becoming frustrating.
 
I do wish he would play a 3-5-2 once in a while. Our first game at home vs Leicester it's only when we changed to a 3-5-2 in the second half and Sonny game on as a Striker that we took over the game. Why didn't we start that way vs them last weekend, I don't know. It's becoming frustrating.

Sonny reacted to being dropped. You'd think that would light the touch paper for ideas, for someone who earns £15m a year.

It seems he learned nothing. Son should 100% be coming in from the bench right now and forced to earn his place. It's one of the few positions in the team we can do that.
 
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