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Match AZ v Spurs 6 March 17:45
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When Solanke was being half carried along the sidelines post getting the knock, I couldn't help thinking of this moment in Family Guy where Peter injures his knee and just absolutely milks the situation into oblivion. Bunch of soft mints this lot are...
I think we are out.
They will come, sit deep and wait for that one mistake.
We can't handle a low block at the best of times, and we have a gaff in us every single game.
With the added pressure of this being our one chance of redeeming this season I think their arses are going to drop again..
Small positive at least it ends this farce of a season and manager.
I wager a lot of us can then turn off for the rest of the season and not waste any more energy on this club for a few months
They will come, sit deep and wait for that one mistake.
We can't handle a low block at the best of times, and we have a gaff in us every single game.
With the added pressure of this being our one chance of redeeming this season I think their arses are going to drop again..
Small positive at least it ends this farce of a season and manager.
I wager a lot of us can then turn off for the rest of the season and not waste any more energy on this club for a few months
/// AZ are a poor side. This tie will be comfortable. Even how we are just now we will still cruise through this.I just wanted to repost this
yes that Nico guy is a real knob
This actually had the potential to be our best goal scoring opportunity by a mile. A relatively simple counter where a few right decisions could lead to an open shot on goal at worst, a sitter at best. The recipient of the pass in particular, Son, has made himself a career out of taking full advantage of situations like this. What’s not to like?
Take your pick here. A simple one two with Maddison that’d probably leave Son 1v1 with the keeper, rewarding Udogie’s run and letting him deliver a low cross/cutback, or going for the ultimate prize by threading the needle with a pass to Tel who keeps running behind the defender. All would have been better choices than what Son actually does, which is to go for his own shot and have it blocked by the defender as can be seen below.
The chance is gone, and 5 players including Son himself are left behind the play in an instance. But it still shouldn’t be a massive problem, as they have 9 players inside their own third including the keeper. Right?
As I said in another post, Bergvall almost spends more time pressing opposing fullbacks around the touchline than he does defending the centre of the pitch the way CMs usually do. This is another instance of him doing just that, which I assume is by design rather than on his own initiative. This can be very dangerous though, as fullbacks pushing forward also forces centrebacks to stay wide to cover for them which opens up the centre even further.
A nice backheel by the AZ player, and Bergvall is done.Bentancur is the last man standing in midfield, being tasked with covering acres of space by himself.
It devolves into this in a few seconds. Look at all that space, unbelievable. Although it should still be stated that Bentancur messes up by refusing to fully commit to the dribbler until it's too late. I presume that he is wary of leaving the runner(s) on the right wide open. But I’d argue that the priority is to stop the ball, especially when someone is marching forward through the centre of the pitch unopposed.
The situation is terrible so this is not me pointing the finger at him, but Gray doesn't help himself by being in two minds there. He needs to either take a gamble by pushing in front of the defensive line and challenging the player on the ball, or to keep dropping back to prevent the simple through ball to Parrott. He does neither. I sense he tries to offside trap Parrott at the very last second, but the late timing and lack of synchronization with his teammates cause it to backfire.
Vicario saves the sitter, or Parrott misses it. Depends on how you look at it.
Elementariness and more importantly the repetitive nature of some of these errors is a terrible look for not just the manager but also the coaching staff in general. A simple managerial change won’t suffice, it has to be a total cleanup. And it’s clear at this point that Dier was not spouting BS when he talked about how training sessions went under Ange and co.
Yep and Ange says to the AZ coach at full time, ‘ thanks mate, sons crying again’
Nope that's wrong attitude because ideally we want levy to go first, once gone Ange will be gone in no time.
If Ange goes first, few results will come our way then few summer signings and the fans will think all sorted, we will be in same position as today in 12 months time. See Nuno, Jose and Conte times at Spurs, revolving door for managers.
Anyways, Levy won't go first and nothing will change season after season until he retires and his son takes over and probably gets worse.
Some good insights, but can you refresh my memory on what Dier roughly said about Ange's training sessions?
This actually had the potential to be our best goal scoring opportunity by a mile. A relatively simple counter where a few right decisions could lead to an open shot on goal at worst, a sitter at best. The recipient of the pass in particular, Son, has made himself a career out of taking full advantage of situations like this. What’s not to like?
Take your pick here. A simple one two with Maddison that’d probably leave Son 1v1 with the keeper, rewarding Udogie’s run and letting him deliver a low cross/cutback, or going for the ultimate prize by threading the needle with a pass to Tel who keeps running behind the defender. All would have been better choices than what Son actually does, which is to go for his own shot and have it blocked by the defender as can be seen below.
The chance is gone, and 5 players including Son himself are left behind the play in an instance. But it still shouldn’t be a massive problem, as they have 9 players inside their own third including the keeper. Right?
As I said in another post, Bergvall almost spends more time pressing opposing fullbacks around the touchline than he does defending the centre of the pitch the way CMs usually do. This is another instance of him doing just that, which I assume is by design rather than on his own initiative. This can be very dangerous though, as fullbacks pushing forward also forces centrebacks to stay wide to cover for them which opens up the centre even further.
A nice backheel by the AZ player, and Bergvall is done.Bentancur is the last man standing in midfield, being tasked with covering acres of space by himself.
It devolves into this in a few seconds. Look at all that space, unbelievable. Although it should still be stated that Bentancur messes up by refusing to fully commit to the dribbler until it's too late. I presume that he is wary of leaving the runner(s) on the right wide open. But I’d argue that the priority is to stop the ball, especially when someone is marching forward through the centre of the pitch unopposed.
The situation is terrible so this is not me pointing the finger at him, but Gray doesn't help himself by being in two minds there. He needs to either take a gamble by pushing in front of the defensive line and challenging the player on the ball, or to keep dropping back to prevent the simple through ball to Parrott. He does neither. I sense he tries to offside trap Parrott at the very last second, but the late timing and lack of synchronization with his teammates cause it to backfire.
Vicario saves the sitter, or Parrott misses it. Depends on how you look at it.
Elementariness and more importantly the repetitive nature of some of these errors is a terrible look for not just the manager but also the coaching staff in general. A simple managerial change won’t suffice, it has to be a total cleanup. And it’s clear at this point that Dier was not spouting BS when he talked about how training sessions went under Ange and co.
Thanks for this …
This actually had the potential to be our best goal scoring opportunity by a mile. A relatively simple counter where a few right decisions could lead to an open shot on goal at worst, a sitter at best. The recipient of the pass in particular, Son, has made himself a career out of taking full advantage of situations like this. What’s not to like?
Take your pick here. A simple one two with Maddison that’d probably leave Son 1v1 with the keeper, rewarding Udogie’s run and letting him deliver a low cross/cutback, or going for the ultimate prize by threading the needle with a pass to Tel who keeps running behind the defender. All would have been better choices than what Son actually does, which is to go for his own shot and have it blocked by the defender as can be seen below.
The chance is gone, and 5 players including Son himself are left behind the play in an instance. But it still shouldn’t be a massive problem, as they have 9 players inside their own third including the keeper. Right?
As I said in another post, Bergvall almost spends more time pressing opposing fullbacks around the touchline than he does defending the centre of the pitch the way CMs usually do. This is another instance of him doing just that, which I assume is by design rather than on his own initiative. This can be very dangerous though, as fullbacks pushing forward also forces centrebacks to stay wide to cover for them which opens up the centre even further.
A nice backheel by the AZ player, and Bergvall is done.Bentancur is the last man standing in midfield, being tasked with covering acres of space by himself.
It devolves into this in a few seconds. Look at all that space, unbelievable. Although it should still be stated that Bentancur messes up by refusing to fully commit to the dribbler until it's too late. I presume that he is wary of leaving the runner(s) on the right wide open. But I’d argue that the priority is to stop the ball, especially when someone is marching forward through the centre of the pitch unopposed.
The situation is terrible so this is not me pointing the finger at him, but Gray doesn't help himself by being in two minds there. He needs to either take a gamble by pushing in front of the defensive line and challenging the player on the ball, or to keep dropping back to prevent the simple through ball to Parrott. He does neither. I sense he tries to offside trap Parrott at the very last second, but the late timing and lack of synchronization with his teammates cause it to backfire.
Vicario saves the sitter, or Parrott misses it. Depends on how you look at it.
Elementariness and more importantly the repetitive nature of some of these errors is a terrible look for not just the manager but also the coaching staff in general. A simple managerial change won’t suffice, it has to be a total cleanup. And it’s clear at this point that Dier was not spouting BS when he talked about how training sessions went under Ange and co.
The tie my friend. The tie. We will still progress but we are shit!
The knob but wasn’t needed
I'm going with the one that died about 6 years ago.
If any of you get the chance go and watch the Parrot chance from when Sonny loses the ball. Watch the state of Udogie not giving a fuck trying to get back. If you are a full back in this system you can’t just jog back when you get caught out of position. He won’t be able to effect anything but at least show a desire to get back. That stuff rubs off on team mates!
I don't... I think we go through THIS tie, and drag it out for another month!
If we end up with AJAX next round, THEN we're out...
Cos you know how the 'footballing revenge' narrative works out!! Especially when Spurs are on the receiving end!
Why would it be any other way...I think something else is happening here, the way the story is being written up it's like a narrative of descent is being inflated suspicious...Unhappy players and fans Daniel has to act..we are in the end game now
He can't gee up the away fans without it being a MASSIVE FALLOUT...
Same as Maddison can't do a fucking goal celebration without it escalating into a MASSIVE thing online!!
Fuck me, we're a soap opera circus!!
I rate him, but he’s a shit 6 he really is.
Udogie is a shocking defender. Massive issue. VDV at LB pls
So what is he then??
A winger?? a left sided CM??
You're making him sound like Emerson Royal with slightly better PR!
This actually had the potential to be our best goal scoring opportunity by a mile. A relatively simple counter where a few right decisions could lead to an open shot on goal at worst, a sitter at best. The recipient of the pass in particular, Son, has made himself a career out of taking full advantage of situations like this. What’s not to like?
Take your pick here. A simple one two with Maddison that’d probably leave Son 1v1 with the keeper, rewarding Udogie’s run and letting him deliver a low cross/cutback, or going for the ultimate prize by threading the needle with a pass to Tel who keeps running behind the defender. All would have been better choices than what Son actually does, which is to go for his own shot and have it blocked by the defender as can be seen below.
The chance is gone, and 5 players including Son himself are left behind the play in an instance. But it still shouldn’t be a massive problem, as they have 9 players inside their own third including the keeper. Right?
As I said in another post, Bergvall almost spends more time pressing opposing fullbacks around the touchline than he does defending the centre of the pitch the way CMs usually do. This is another instance of him doing just that, which I assume is by design rather than on his own initiative. This can be very dangerous though, as fullbacks pushing forward also forces centrebacks to stay wide to cover for them which opens up the centre even further.
A nice backheel by the AZ player, and Bergvall is done.Bentancur is the last man standing in midfield, being tasked with covering acres of space by himself.
It devolves into this in a few seconds. Look at all that space, unbelievable. Although it should still be stated that Bentancur messes up by refusing to fully commit to the dribbler until it's too late. I presume that he is wary of leaving the runner(s) on the right wide open. But I’d argue that the priority is to stop the ball, especially when someone is marching forward through the centre of the pitch unopposed.
The situation is terrible so this is not me pointing the finger at him, but Gray doesn't help himself by being in two minds there. He needs to either take a gamble by pushing in front of the defensive line and challenging the player on the ball, or to keep dropping back to prevent the simple through ball to Parrott. He does neither. I sense he tries to offside trap Parrott at the very last second, but the late timing and lack of synchronization with his teammates cause it to backfire.
Vicario saves the sitter, or Parrott misses it. Depends on how you look at it.
Elementariness and more importantly the repetitive nature of some of these errors is a terrible look for not just the manager but also the coaching staff in general. A simple managerial change won’t suffice, it has to be a total cleanup. And it’s clear at this point that Dier was not spouting BS when he talked about how training sessions went under Ange and co.
I remember this very well and Son made shocking decisions repeatedly in the game. The ball to Udogie was so obvious but that choice is why Son should be free of captaincy.
On the ease of their counter attack, the player that the backheel went to initially had Son level with him. Our captain chose not or wasn't able to run with him after essentially turning it over with a bad decision to shoot...
Even after the backheel and the space to run into, We still have 4v3 in our advantage so it's dangerous but manageable. Bentacur should have taken a yellow regardless btw and he got a much dumber yellow card later in the game anyway.
Re: Gray, I don't agree, I think he timed the step up to play offside well and even if Parrott scores that was getting pulled back for offside. Danso was more indecisive here because it's him that has to make the recovery run if they break the offisde.
But the point stands, we have given up so many dangerous counters this season from poor decisions by Son.
He’s a good footballer but he can’t defend. Doesn’t sense danger from crosses, and doesn’t block, put his body on the line. 1 vs 1 he’s fine… he carries the ball well too. We need to block out six games and create a solid base, this won’t happen with him in this system
This will never stop being a terrible idea.