Ben Davies

League 1 useless clogger tonight - get him out

I think he has shown his usefulness in Europa League games and potentially as a LCB with our weak group of CB’s but he should never see another game at LB in the PL for us unless Reguilon and Cirkin are both out injured.

He is nowhere close to good enough.
 
I see it's back to scapegoating Ben now Winks missed a game.

He was immense Thurs. Today wasn't his best game but he did what he was asked to do. That's why Jose likes and picks him - he's a squad player who will do the job asked of him.

I'm a big fan of Reggie but we can all see he not as strong defensively as Davies.

If we could combine Ben's defensive know-how with Reggie's forward dynamism it wud be ideal.
 
I think he has shown his usefulness in Europa League games and potentially as a LCB with our weak group of CB’s but he should never see another game at LB in the PL for us unless Reguilon and Cirkin are both out injured.

He is nowhere close to good enough.
You genuinely think Cirkin would have handled the long balls and the physicality of Burnley better tonight?
 

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I think he has shown his usefulness in Europa League games and potentially as a LCB with our weak group of CB’s but he should never see another game at LB in the PL for us unless Reguilon and Cirkin are both out injured.

He is nowhere close to good enough.

All you're doing is showing a complete lack of understanding on how squad football works - for Burnley away Davies is ten times better than Reguilon and Cirkin, why? Because the defence will be mostly taking place seven foot off the ground, an area where neither Reguilon and Cirkin are very strong ...

Still not understanding? then go check the result ... Burnley 0 ... defensive job done.

Fair enough you clearly don't understand tactics but there's no need to brag about it, you just end up looking stupid every week.
 
All you're doing is showing a complete lack of understanding on how squad football works - for Burnley away Davies is ten times better than Reguilon and Cirkin, why? Because the defence will be mostly taking place seven foot off the ground, an area where neither Reguilon and Cirkin are very strong ...

Still not understanding? then go check the result ... Burnley 0 ... defensive job done.

Fair enough you clearly don't understand tactics but there's no need to brag about it, you just end up looking stupid every week.

Reguilon is a much better defender than Davies and allows us to keep possession and open Burnley up so they can’t just sit back and play compact which clearly frustrated us today.

We are a much bigger threat than Burnley, we don’t need to be scared of them and react to their tactics we can blow them off the pitch with our much better talent.

Davies was not impressive in any way defensively. He isn’t particularly strong in the air and again at LB he is a worse defender than Reguilon. Sure we got the clean sheet but very little, if any, of that was due to Davies.
 
He wouldn’t have handled them worse and would have been an option or potential threat going forward unlike Davies.
That is possibly the most bat shit crazy opinion I have ever read on this site and that is really saying something.

How many times have you even watched Cirkin play?

As a frame of reference, watch foyth vs Burnley a couple of years ago. At Turf Moor you need men to stand up and be counted. Davies stood up today even if he hit a few useless crosses.
 

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Reguilon is a much better defender than Davies and allows us to keep possession and open Burnley up so they can’t just sit back and play compact which clearly frustrated us today.

We are a much bigger threat than Burnley, we don’t need to be scared of them and react to their tactics we can blow them off the pitch with our much better talent.

Davies was not impressive in any way defensively. He isn’t particularly strong in the air and again at LB he is a worse defender than Reguilon. Sure we got the clean sheet but very little, if any, of that was due to Davies.
I'll repeat - BURNLEY SCORED ZERO - ergo Jose picked the right defence for the game.

All your 'whataboutism' is just nonsense, neither Regulion nor Cirkin could have done better than concede ZERO - stop trying to turn an important away clean sheet win into a tactical failure - nobody's buying it.
 
I'll repeat - BURNLEY SCORED ZERO - ergo Jose picked the right defence for the game.

All your 'whataboutism' is just nonsense, neither Regulion nor Cirkin could have done better than concede ZERO - stop trying to turn an important away clean sheet win into a tactical failure - nobody's buying it.

It’s such a BS way of looking at things.

Just looking at the result without seeing how we got there and then handing out individual accolades for the game is ridiculous.

Davies was not string defensively, he didn’t make any good defensive plays, he didn’t stop goal scoring opportunities.
 

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It’s such a BS way of looking at things.

Just looking at the result without seeing how we got there and then handing out individual accolades for the game is ridiculous.

Davies was not string defensively, he didn’t make any good defensive plays, he didn’t stop goal scoring opportunities.

He didn’t stop any goal scoring opportunities?

So no defensive headers won? the very reason he started in front of the two weaker aerial alternatives. Really you need to stop now you're just embarrassing yourself ....
 
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