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Next game Poch (hopefully he is still in charge) needs to make changes that send a message.

Gazzaniga
KWP - Sanchez - Vertonghen - Davies
Winks
Ndombele - Dele
Lucas - Kane - Son
Players that play for the shirt. Vertonghen maybe has a question mark over him, but he’s always given his all.

Winks is not good enough to screen the back four.

Fucking hell we miss Dembele.
 
Maureen and Rodgers joint favs for Spurs job

My disdain for Jose aside; we shouldn't touch Rogers with a barge-pole.... Would speak volumes of the man if he'd be willing to come.

a) If he leaves Leicester already.

b) He'd have already left Celtic mid-season in the same manner already.

......Ergo, he'd be whoring himself out to City at the first rumblings of Pep leaving City.
 
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Moussa Dembele is the most underrated, under- appreciated in Prem League history.

As many good players as we still have, he was the one that held it together and unfortunately he’s absence is being felt more and more with each passing month, not less. I can’t think of many players whose effect is so obviously felt when they leave. Even Bale leaving didn’t hurt us this bad.
 
we're not getting champions league now unless we win it. Levy would be spending 30mill to sack poch and then the 50mill hit of missing CL.
Its a big moment. I suspect there will be a negotiated pay off. but we need to fie prepared for a transitional season, maybe get some form back and a cup run.

....Turn it around in time for a Europa League win maybe? :freund:
 
I wish the new stadium wasn't finished, was so much better in Wembley, in fact it was even better in the "old" WHL, we were beating everyone, man city, liverpool, woolwich, chelskea, united... and scoring lots of goals against the weaker teams. It was so hard to get tickets. We were about to win the big one, was better of delaying new stadium until achieved. If we could spend £700m on a new stadium, a fraction of that would have been sufficient to improve the team and win the title. See how far we are today. In fact how bad we become. Genius he is. I think the new stadium has become a jinx and haven't go t a clue how mr levy is going to fill it if these performances and results carry on.

There is a school of thought that Levy has played this hand at the wrong time.

More money made via TV than match day, so we didn’t “have” to do this.

It is a brilliant stadium though!!

But maybe we could have rolled the dice for another couple of years, backed this squad and see if we could have made it to the pinnacle....
 
Makes it 7 then.

Add in players who maybe ain't good enough but do care such as Sissoko, Sanchez Foyth Lamela, Davies. We have 12.

Players who 100% need to go are Toby, Eriksen, Wanyama, Aurier, Rose. Add to that player like Ali, Dier who are in last chance saloon it's very Grimm


So taking a less fatalistic view; all your saying is we need to sell 5 or 6 players and replace them.

Yes, we knew this already you drama queen.
 
A lot more besides.

Not trying to get rid of Eriksen and then picking him after his clear "I want out and won't sign a new contract"

Still playing Alderweireld who was massively on the wane last season and is even worse this season.

That narrow fucking defensive line up

That static play round the opposition box

The shoe-horning of players into a starting 11 regardless of form or position, simply because "they were good 3 years ago"

#picking Wanyama/Aurier/Eriksen/Dier etc.

"Shoehorning" hardly applies to Dier.... At least half the forum thought he was worth a punt at CM today.
 
I wish the new stadium wasn't finished, was so much better in Wembley, in fact it was even better in the "old" WHL, we were beating everyone, man city, liverpool, woolwich, chelskea, united... and scoring lots of goals against the weaker teams. It was so hard to get tickets. We were about to win the big one, was better of delaying new stadium until achieved. If we could spend £700m on a new stadium, a fraction of that would have been sufficient to improve the team and win the title. See how far we are today. In fact how bad we become. Genius he is. I think the new stadium has become a jinx and haven't go t a clue how mr levy is going to fill it if these performances and results carry on.
I wish we were still in WHL tbh
 
Next game Poch (hopefully he is still in charge) needs to make changes that send a message.

Gazzaniga
KWP - Sanchez - Vertonghen - Davies
Winks
Ndombele - Dele
Lucas - Kane - Son
Players that play for the shirt. Vertonghen maybe has a question mark over him, but he’s always given his all.
Good team, I'd probably start Skipp since Winks can't really play DM all that well, as much as I like him.

EDIT: Forgot about Dier lol
 
A lot of finger pointing to the past about lack of investment and all that but it doesn't help where we are NOW. We are at where we are at the question is how to fix it going forward and I honestly don't know.

If you would have told me 5 months ago while we were waiting to play a CL Final that Poch may need to leave for the good of the team I'd have called you crazy. If you'd have told me all of Eriksen, Toby, Jan, etc. are still here AND we brought in a few very good players, I'd have told you we should be challenging for the title. Fact is Eriksen, Toby, Jan, Rose, etc. have been some of our worst regulars this year.

I think at this point one of two things needs to happen:

1. Poch stays and we stop playing some of the complacent vets. Put the kids in and see what they're made of. Give Sanchez and Foyth a ton of minutes at CB. No more Rose. No more Aurier. Play Sess when he's healthy, same with Lo Celso. No more Eriksen. Let the youth and hungry players play, instruct them to be defensively sound. I wouldn't mind rolling out a squad like this...

Foyth-Sanchez-Jan-Davies
--Ndombele-Dier-Winks--
-------Lucas-Kane-Son------

Sure, maybe it's not our best players but they'll play their asses off for the club. We could rotate Lo Celso, Skipp, Lamela, KWP, etc. in the squad. I just can't do Toby and Eirksen anymore, they are going through the motions.

2. Poch needs to be sacked and it sickens me to say that. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and I want him to be here but I just don't know what else to say.

Quality post mate!
 
Next game Poch (hopefully he is still in charge) needs to make changes that send a message.

Gazzaniga
KWP - Sanchez - Vertonghen - Davies
Winks
Ndombele - Dele
Lucas - Kane - Son
Players that play for the shirt. Vertonghen maybe has a question mark over him, but he’s always given his all.

I'm with you on the personal, but we seem to be opened up far too easily in the middle.

Think we need something like

KWP - Dier - Sanchez - Foyth - Sess (please be healthy)
Winks - Ndombele
Lucas - Kane - Son

Edit - Don't even know if this enough muscle in the middle. Ndombele seems to be struggling to deal with any defensive assignment at the moment.

Might need to put Jan in the back 3 and Dier next to Winks
 
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So taking a less fatalistic view; all your saying is we need to sell 5 or 6 players and replace them.

Yes, we knew this already you drama queen.

No they need to be gone ASAP and replaced this January. Like I said only 4 players in that 25 man squad are 100% good enough for us and wanna be here. Not good enough. Also not being a drama queen by saying we need to replace those who don't wanna be here am I
 
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