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Match Chelsea FC vs Tottenham Hotspur FC | 3rd April, 2025 8PM GMT

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Who will be in charge for this match?

  • Ange Postecoglou

    Votes: 95 84.8%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 10 8.9%
  • Ryan Mason/Matt Wells

    Votes: 7 6.3%

  • Total voters
    112
What's needed to turn it all around? Have a club really capable of winning shit that really matters?

Someone has to be willing to drop some very serious coin over the next two seasons. Double probably triple what it's been to now. At least.
We do spend good money on transfers, we just keep signing absolute shite like Ndombele, Lo Celso, Davinson, Dragusin, Porro, Udogie, Richarlison, Bissouma, Brennan, Maddison and to a lesser degree Solanke. Also, 30-40m deals for unproven babies like Odobert or Gray...like wtf. Now imagine what that money coulda bought if we had clever football people in charge of recruitment.

The main issue is wages, though...first, we don't pay elite salaries, the ones real ambitious clubs do. And whenever we go near the 150-200k a week mark, we give that to Sonny's shadow, friggin Timo Werner or that mug Maddison...or Ndombele.

That's what happens when you got an utterly clueless gangster clown running your football operations.

Oh and guess what? We are that friggin loaded we could act like a big club and still be well within the cones. Knowing that if we started climbing up the league and winning shit, domestically and/or in Europe, we'd pocket sick prize money too...making your prior investment worth it.
 
I'd have resigned if I was Postecoglu, he has no shame.
no chance

Bugs Bunny Money GIF by Looney Tunes
 
The amazing thing is that we actually have some decent players…. Unlike prior season write offs.
The 9th richest club in the world, with the highest paid chairman & most expensive season ticket, plus one with Spurs football heritage...shouldn't settle for decent players. We should have 4 or 5 truly world class players in the starting 11, with the rest of the squad full of CL-grade talent...then yeah, a few kids and glue guys like Gentle Ben.
 
True... our mentality has been weak for a long time. Hence why we have the Spursy and Dr Tottenham tags.
Unfortunately it's inbred into our DNA now, we've been through so many managers, and so many players, but that weak underbelly is still there.
Weird how there's always the same common denominator since 2001...
 
I switched off when VAR took an age on their second goal and didn't bother turning it back on when the notification hit my phone that it was ruled out. So I went to check the VAR on Sarr's goal. Despite how shit that performance was, that VAR was very soft. I doubt that would have been ruled out if it was against us.

Gillet on VAR AGAIN. Why do they always send him to VAR for our games? A club that cared about winning would make enough fuss and pressure to prevent the PGMOL from giving him our games on VAR.
What annoyed me is that it probably was a foul, when you watch it over and over again, but so was the foul on Sarr in the penalty area, moments before the goal, when the same criteria is applied.

There was contact on Sarr's ankle; but none on the ball.

The irony was that Sarr was so livid about not being given a penalty it was his anger that led to the aggression in the foul that VAR used to rule out his goal.

Sarr was then booked into the bargain.

VAR is being misused and despite Spurs being shit we are regularly stitched up.
 
That breakneck intensity both in and out of possession, despite obviously being unsustainable in the long run, was the defining feature of "Angeball" (bleurgh) in its heyday. It was chaotic at times, it didn't prevent us from giving away two goal leads and such, but we were infinitely better than this absolute crap.

Now, realizing after all these injuries that it is indeed unsustainable, it seems like he told players to tone it down a little bit.Except he still puts players vastly out of position with his weird team shape and individual instructions. So players are still caught out of position all the time, yet they don't try nearly as hard as they did back in the day to get back in the play.

As a result we end up with the worst of both worlds. Not only still as vulnerable at the back as we have always been under him, but also as hopeless as a Tony Pulis team up front.

We won't win a single match under him again if it continues like this. Can't believe I'm saying this, but he needs to go back to ask them to run like lunatics again. Injuries be damned.
 
What annoyed me is that it probably was a foul, when you watch it over and over again, but so was the foul on Sarr in the penalty area, moments before the goal, when the same criteria is applied.

There was contact on Sarr's ankle; but none on the ball.

The irony was that Sarr was so livid about not being given a penalty it was his anger that led to the aggression in the foul that VAR used to rule out his goal.

Sarr was then booked into the bargain.

VAR is being misused and despite Spurs being shit we are regularly stitched up.

Would have been a very soft penalty but the'd have got it.

tbh I don't think Sarr was aggressive on Caicedo in that challenge, he was trying to nick the bouncing ball away. There was no wind up or momentum behind the challenge because he know that he was away because Caicedo was already going down.

Pathetic, soft decision from Gillet and it killed the game waiting for him to find an excuse to rule it out. Also notice how many chavski players surrounded the ref demanding he rule it out. Not one of them booked.

Refs and VAR are destroying the PL.
 
What annoyed me is that it probably was a foul, when you watch it over and over again, but so was the foul on Sarr in the penalty area, moments before the goal, when the same criteria is applied.

There was contact on Sarr's ankle; but none on the ball.

The irony was that Sarr was so livid about not being given a penalty it was his anger that led to the aggression in the foul that VAR used to rule out his goal.

Sarr was then booked into the bargain.

VAR is being misused and despite Spurs being shit we are regularly stitched up.
I also though that a Var review could not give yellow cards only red ?
 
mate? what?

it was a clear foul. The VAR took long (wasn't even long tbh as the ref watched the screen for 1 minute 26 seconds) because they were deciding what colour card to give Sarr.

No chance they were pondering a red for that. the ref was only able to give a yellow because he saw it on the monitor.

the slowmo showed contact and you can give a foul but it was a very very soft foul. if that was a foul then Sarr should have got a penalty 30 seconds before but I didn't even think that was a pen.

You can hate Ange, and be justified to do so but that don't mean we have to jump through hoops to justify Gillet on VAR. He's Australian, if Ange isn't good enough for this level because of his journey to get here then Gillet should be nowhere near PL level as a ref.
 
Would have been a very soft penalty but the'd have got it.

tbh I don't think Sarr was aggressive on Caicedo in that challenge, he was trying to nick the bouncing ball away. There was no wind up or momentum behind the challenge because he know that he was away because Caicedo was already going down.

Pathetic, soft decision from Gillet and it killed the game waiting for him to find an excuse to rule it out. Also notice how many chavski players surrounded the ref demanding he rule it out. Not one of them booked.

Refs and VAR are destroying the PL.
Sarr was arguing about the lack of a pen moments before the challenge that led to the goal. He was incensed.

What I noticed about the foul on Sarr was that it looked a certain pen from the first angle shown on the TV but when they showed it from a different, (more obscure), angle it wasn't as obvious.

Sarr's reaction tells me it was a foul and should have been a penalty.

VAR is being misused consistently in my opinion and sometimes not used at all if it suits an agenda.
 
No chance they were pondering a red for that. the ref was only able to give a yellow because he saw it on the monitor.

the slowmo showed contact and you can give a foul but it was a very very soft foul. if that was a foul then Sarr should have got a penalty 30 seconds before but I didn't even think that was a pen.

You can hate Ange, and be justified to do so but that don't mean we have to jump through hoops to justify Gillet on VAR. He's Australian, if Ange isn't good enough for this level because of his journey to get here then Gillet should be nowhere near PL level as a ref.
what?
 

VAR can’t give a yellow.

The way I understand it, they can recommend a red but not a yellow. The ref was only able to decide that after seeing it on the monitor.

The fact that it didn’t look like a foul at all in real time and the time it took Gillet to find and angle to show him tells you everything you need to know about that decision.

Gillet is an open Liverpool fan and can fuck right off.
 
VAR can’t give a yellow.

The way I understand it, they can recommend a red but not a yellow. The ref was only able to decide that after seeing it on the monitor.

The fact that it didn’t look like a foul at all in real time and the time it took Gillet to find and angle to show him tells you everything you need to know about that decision.

Gillet is an open Liverpool fan and can fuck right off.
I don't get what you're saying.

They were looking to see if the foul warranted a red card. I'm pretty sure the ref had already decided it was a foul within seconds because it was a clear foul ffs, what are we doing here?

It's cool, the audio will probably come out in a few weeks and this will be confirmed.
 
Being honest about last night; it was a trademark Ange performance that we have all got used to.

If Chelsea were any good they would have been 2-0 up at half time.

They should have scored inside the first minute which is a further hallmark of an Ange performance.

Spurs are just too open and too easy to play against under Ange.

Then there was the set piece bed wetting; panic stricken huddles that the ref took it upon himself to aggravate.

Vicario's first half performance should be investigated for match fixing. He was desperate to commit an 'error'.

Maybe Paratici had Chelsea down to score first in his acca?

Romero was also busy being the twat Conte complained about who plays for himself; pushing, shoving and generally handbagging at every opportunity. To be fair Romero was OK over the 90 but I suspect his Argentine mate playing against him may have been the main motivating factor for his improved form.

Romero leads me into a further issue which needs resolving; the so called 'leadership group'.

Some of the worst performances last night came from Vicario, Son and Maddison. None of these players, including Romero, has set a consistent good example, level of performance or shown leadership throughout the season.

Son in particular is a shadow.

The leadership group policy needs to be axed.

Bill Nicholson and Keith Burkinshaw had one captain. The captain had meetings with the management and coaches and was seen as an extension of the manager on the pitch. A bridge between the manager and the players. A leader.

This team are a shambles with too many cooks spoiling the broth.

It's amateur shite and lacks credibility.

It is looking more and more as though Ange was picked for his Austral Asian credentials, and the marketing opportunities this could lead to, rather than his footballing acumen.

Son is the club captain to attract and placate the tourists who visit the Levydome to worship their idol rather than to lead the team on the pitch verbally or by example.

I suspect the leadership group was an idea presented to a weak management team that had identified the fact that Son was not an appropriate pick as captain. A compromise solution that works for nobody.

Who may have been responsible for coming up with a crap idea like that I wonder? :levyeyes:

The weakness we are witnessing is the culmination of a perfect shitstorm from the top down.

A man who cannot be replaced, by the supporters or the board, who has got used to running an autocracy and resents being told he is wrong.

Time is up.

He's had a good run.
 
I don't get what you're saying.

They were looking to see if the foul warranted a red card. I'm pretty sure the ref had already decided it was a foul within seconds because it was a clear foul ffs, what are we doing here?

It's cool, the audio will probably come out in a few weeks and this will be confirmed.


Fair enough, let’s wait on the audio.

If they were considering a red that’s even more damning of the standard of officiating imo
 
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