You got the part about then sponsoring themselves right?
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You got the part about then sponsoring themselves right?
Man city been doing this for years now, easy way to get around ffp
St James Park will soon be some Saudi named stadium also
New big money signings will get personal sponsorship or brand ambassador jobs with Saudi companies
All perfect legit and not at all owned by the same person
That rule was temporarily relaxed.... (See article I posted above)
And the real quiz of course is they are absolutely not owned by PIF……
Yes there is. Their owners are paying their sponsorship. If the market rate is really £25m. Then why hasn’t someone other than their owners stumped up the cash ?
Because pimping Saudi interests is a major reason for their investment in the club?
The most ironclad version of this would be if Newcastle has an offer in hand for the sponsorship from some clear arms-length third party and the Saudi organization has just matched it. Nothing anybody could complain about in that case.
Fair enough. Just means that it’s another nail in football’s competitive coffin. Newcastle, enabled by Johnson’s bent Government to be run by PFI. Sickening.
If they invest money similar to the other top 6 clubs..then they are keeping things competitive?
I would hope more of the 7th to 10th clubs get some investment in their clubs, so they match the likes of , newcastle, liverpool, Woolwich, us. It will make for a more competitive league than it is now.
Of course it would be completely unlikely that the Saudi government had one of their business partners submit formal interest at £X with a *wink wink, nudge nudge* that the Saudis would outbid the offer in the end.
This is why incestuous self sponsorship should be banned. It's outrageously susceptible to fraud.
Nah, it's fine because it's all about 'fair market value'. £25m is a reasonable shirt deal for a Champions League team with ambition.
"with ambition" what does that mean when valuing a shirt sponsor? A: Fuck all.
AC Milan's shirt sponsor deal is worth €12m pa
Inter Milan = €10m
Lazio = €15m
Napoli = €9m
Real Sociedad = €1.9m
Athletic Madrid (practically guaranteed a CL place every season) = €40m
Real Madrid = €70m
Barca = €75m
Sevilla = Multiple UEFA winners €5m
Bayern = €50m
Dortmund = multi CL participants - Germanaies 2nd biggest club €30m
It's a decade since you kicked a European ball (EUROPA) and twenty years for CL. Sure add a few mill on for PL clubs which is the most-watched league in the world but let's not attempt to paint this differently than what it really is. Any "normal" club qualifying for Europe with you almost nonexistent record wouldn't be landing a deal this size (i.e had you qualified before PIF ownership you would be scratching the barrel of betting or dodgy social currency scam.)
We are that 7th to 10th club.
Ambition counts a lot because a shirt sponsor wants to be associated with progress, not stagnation. Brighton would get a better shirt deal on the open market than, say, Palace. Because the shirt sponsors see that Brighton are an ambitious progressive club, where Crystal Palace look pretty content with plodding along in the bottom half.
And sure without the someone with the wealth of the Saudis we'd maybe not get this sized deal in our first CL campaign for 20 years, but £25m a year to Sponsor Newcastle United isn't outrageous. It only seems a massive jump because of the paltry sum we were on beforehand. If Ashley had had any sense we could have been sponsored in line with teams like Everton or West Ham.
You list a load of continental sides, but each of them would have their deals inflated if they were plying their trade in the Premier League. Would West Ham have a £10m a season deal if they weren't in the PL?
Sorry mate but what a load of old tosh.
EVERY club is ambitious, every Club wants to win something, and every club wants to progress either through the League or within their league. Having money behind you doesn't equal "ambition". It just means you have money behind you.
I didn't make any comparison to what your previous supplier paid, I made a direct comparison to other football clubs who are European giants, European ever-present, Champions of their domestic league etc
Everton's shirt sponsorship deal is £10m exactly the same as West Ham's which is just a fraction more than yours was at £6.5m THIS is(was) "market rate" and both of those Clubs are bigger than you in terms of money they generate, West Ham significantly so (and WH have actually been playing in Europe).
I have acknowledged an uplift is expected in sponsorship deals for PL Clubs due to PL's global audience.
Must be absolutely gutting for them.
Can we swap owners? I’m feeling charitable.
Prem not going to do anything about it, they aren't interested.
This Fish
- Your club.If this guy cops it, how many ABBA songs are you gonna need to listen to to ease your conscience?