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1882 Concerning 1882: A View from a Season Ticket Holder

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I got another song request by the way.

At the next 1882 game I'd love to hear a proper version of "it's a grand old team to play for", and please finish it off properly. It's embarrassing how this great Spurs chant disappears halfway through. I usually find myself singing the last few sentences on my own in block31.

I still got my season ticket, but usually don't do midweek games as I live abroad. That's why I still haven't made it to a 1882 game yet.
Good call, NY. I don't know when Everton started singing it, but I definitely remember us singing it in the 70s, and I think the 60s too, but it's hard to be sure after all these years.
 
i disagree with people saying the shoes off shit should be binned. Its very visual, if the whole ground joined in it would look amazing. People should just get on board instead of tutting. even if it means being the only one in the block waving a shoe and singing. so be it. don't be silly, you'll probably never see those people again. some people just need to see someone else do it before they'll start.
EVENTUALLY THE PEOPLE WILL YIELD.
 
Mostly the division seems to be around families and less vocal supporters not being mixed in with the singers which is something the club need to sort out when allocating tickets...as long as they don't refer to it as a 'singing section', an advisory stating that some blocks will be 'more raucous and rumbustious' would suffice.

As for the choice of songs...well, it's just like the old (pre-digital) radio arguments at work, Radio 1 or Capital Gold? I love the classics, and it is a better way of getting the rest of the ground to join in as there's nothing like a bit of nostalgia to get the emotion going, but there is no reason to suggest 'shoes off' or a rendition of 'one Daniel Levy' to an unsuspecting steward, should be frowned upon....it's just a bit of fun.

We need to get everyone in to a stand where they can support the team in their own way, without antagonising one another. We need to appreciate that not every song we hear sung is going to be a classic, but we need to sing a few classics to try and get everybody to join in.
 
I'm 52 years old and have been going to the lane for over 40 years, and i just love what 1882 stands for. How can joyously singing for the shirt upset anyone? It's the one thing in the article i don't agree with. Kids getting upset? don't make me laugh, check this video out, thousands of kids celebrating Spurs goals in the old 2nd division.


The trouble with the modern game with regards to atmosphere is the kids have been priced out. What used to happen was the youngsters were the singing section, slowly they graduated to the seats and a new generation of singers came along. That has mostly stopped today due to the cost of modern football, average age of the Spurs fans in that video was 19, today the average age is in the 40's, resulting in a major lack of atmosphere at games.

I have been to a number of games marked as 1882 matches and have enjoyed every one because of the good natured singing and banter. Some of those games i would never have attended if it wasn't for 1882! Barnet for the woolwich v spurs match was one such game, but for me it was the best because of standing on the terraces again.

If the club make sure everyone booking a ticket is aware that people know certain blocks are reserved for 1882 then we should have no further problems.

Thanks for the memories I believe we managed to scrape through promotion because our goal difference was better by 9 from the team in 4th (?Brighton)
 
Also, when I go to Tromsø in a couple of weeks I will probably know, or at least recognize 50% of the people in the away end because these are people I've met or seen following Spurs all over England and Europe for years. Looking at photos from the 1882 sections I hardly recognize any faces. For me this doesn't matter as long as 1882 improves the atmosphere, but rightly or wrongly I think this might also be a reason why some people are a bit skeptical.

I've read on here a few times that 'going to more games doesn't mean you are a better fan'. In a sense, I think it does. I don't think anyone should criticise the fans who go to every game or almost every game. They deserve more respect than that, regardless of whether they sing or not. I know there are legitimate reasons (money etc) why a lot of people don't go to more games, but to make that commitment to Spurs is massive and in reality not many would choose to give it.

That said, I'm pro 1882 and I believe in always trying to create an atmosphere. Even if the players don't deserve it, I think it makes football more enjoyable for us, the fans.
 
I've read on here a few times that 'going to more games doesn't mean you are a better fan'. In a sense, I think it does. I don't think anyone should criticise the fans who go to every game or almost every game. They deserve more respect than that, regardless of whether they sing or not. I know there are legitimate reasons (money etc) why a lot of people don't go to more games, but to make that commitment to Spurs is massive and in reality not many would choose to give it.

That said, I'm pro 1882 and I believe in always trying to create an atmosphere. Even if the players don't deserve it, I think it makes football more enjoyable for us, the fans.

Football is about the fans & from what I've read I like the idea of the whole 1882 movement.

As you said, there are so many reasons that we can't all get to every game. Capacity is up there. If every fan went that supports Spurs we wouldn't all get in. I haven't ever measured a fan by their attendance. Spurs fans aren't glory hunters like the ugly inception of the plastic manure fan that have never been north of the Watford gap, never mind go near to ol' trafford.

I love Spurs, I love being a Spurs fan & I love being amongst other Spurs fans.
 
I liked it too but the writer didn't grasp the 'phones up' chant, which as I understand was sung in solidarity with a yid who was getting threatened with ejection for videoing the game, and therefore was a top drawer spur of the moment chant and not any lower league bollocks.
yeah fair point, although if he doesn't really speak to any of the 1882 lot then he wouldn't have known. I only found out through talking to people that were there. At first I was slating it as well calling it 'tin pot' before someone let me know.
 
It's the same scenario as the Daniel Levy chant to the steward. A fair few, newspapers included if I remember right, thought we were singing in admiration/praising Levy. Not many knew it was aimed at a lookalike steward.
 
Why do people try to validate their support of the football club by always saying they are season ticket holders?

give me a kid who's been going 5 mins (who has that fire in their belly), over a 50 year old moaner any day.
Admittedly I gave up reading the article half way through because i haven't got a clue what he's going on about.

good on yer 1882.

yours,
a season ticket holder
 
I'm a little worried that people are complaining about shoes off and similar (including on the pod). It's a song, it's sung, people join in, it creates atmosphere. Lots of people like it. It's no different to "Stand up if you love Tottenham", just a bit more humorous.

I thought 1882 was about singing without vanity, not about being cool and making sure we only sing hipster songs.

I'm not angry, just disappointed.
 
I'm a little worried that people are complaining about shoes off and similar (including on the pod). It's a song, it's sung, people join in, it creates atmosphere. Lots of people like it. It's no different to "Stand up if you love Tottenham", just a bit more humorous.

I thought 1882 was about singing without vanity, not about being cool and making sure we only sing hipster songs.

I'm not angry, just disappointed.
Shoes off/pogo is fun for a small group, at a youth game, everyone is in it together, thus giving the chant a better effect than it does at first team games. It's just a personal POV, I just don't think it generates any atmosphere. The mobile phone one, I wasn't exactly for it but the spontaneity made it work.
 
Granted, but if 50 people want to sing it and it puts them in a good mood, let them. I wouldn't agree with making them feel bad for doing it or, worse, self-conscious about whether they're allowed to sing something or not and ending up not singing anything.

Yes it's better at Barnet but doesn't mean it won't be ok for a quick 2 minutes at Anji... Anzj... I don't know how to spell that

I'd much rather anything that ends with "...if you love Tottenham" than "...if you hate woolwich" when we're not playing them.
 
Granted, but if 50 people want to sing it and it puts them in a good mood, let them. I wouldn't agree with making them feel bad for doing it or, worse, self-conscious about whether they're allowed to sing something or not and ending up not singing anything.

Yes it's better at Barnet but doesn't mean it won't be ok for a quick 2 minutes at Anji... Anzj... I don't know how to spell that

I'd much rather anything that ends with "...if you love Tottenham" than "...if you hate woolwich" when we're not playing them.
I fucking hate singing anything about the plumstead refugees when we're not playing them. It makes us look small time, like those fascist pricks from east London (not the Os, the other one -- can't remember the name just now) who spend their lives obsessing about us.
 
On the shoe sole subject.

My local team had a player named Suleyman, his nickname was Sulan. (The sole)
He was a CB and in some games where we needed a goal they put him on top to try and use his heading in the chase. He was at the club for 10 years but never scored a goal.
This led to an ironic chant we used to sing when we were in need of a goal. We took off one of our shoes and sang: "Bring the sole up top".
THAT'S a reason for taking off your shoes.

And he actually managed to score in his last season for the club, in a derby against our fiercest rivals, with a magnificent scorcher in the top corner, with his weaker foot, in the 88th minute to make it 2-2.

23 seconds in you can hear the chant.


I guess what I'm trying to say, chants should be firmly grounded and trimmed or they should be spontaneous. However, I Don't really see a big problem trying to start a tradition even though it might be a bit gimmicky.
 
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