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Confess your unpopular opinion.....on Spurs

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No it's not the only thing. You said your not bothered about winning trophies.
I most definitely am.
For me, entertainment comes from seeing Spurs win. And the ultimate entertainment would be seeing us win enough games to win trophies 🏆

Again, I watch football to be entertained. Your reading comprehension allowed you to believe winning trophies wouldn't entertain me.

I just don't give a shit that we haven't won one since 2008. Because that's worrying about shit out of my control.

Would I like Spurs to win trophies? Obviously. I'm a Spurs fan. But they're not the be all and end all of my fandom. Hence why Pochettino and Redknapp’s tenures are alot more memorable for me than Grahams and Ramos' who are the only two managers to win us something since I started supporting the club in 93.

I would rather be entertained than see this club play a dog shit quality of football. So yes, that's exactly where we differ.
 
I just don't give a shit that we haven't won one since 2008. Because that's worrying about shit out of my control.
Entertaining football is equally out of your control though.

I dunno, a certain fatalism is very Spurs, but when it curdles into a weird inverted pride about lack of success that suddenly seems deeply out of character for the history of the club.

To Dare Is To Do is a really good, apt, well expressed motto, it really fits.
 
Lloris and Kane are absolute legends, but both were horrific leaders for this club.

They didn’t hold shit players to account, rarely grabbed games “by the neck” and didn’t exude natural leadership qualities.

In a side so devoid of natural leaders over the last 4 years, that really shone through for me.
 
Entertaining football is equally out of your control though.

I dunno, a certain fatalism is very Spurs, but when it curdles into a weird inverted pride about lack of success that suddenly seems deeply out of character for the history of the club.

To Dare Is To Do is a really good, apt, well expressed motto, it really fits.

It is indeed.

But Tottenham have always had this sense of entertaining football. A "Tottenham way" - even when we've been proper shit.

The last four years of dull football mixed in with how much money has overtaken the game, sports washing etc has seriously seen my care for football be the lowest it's ever been.

I'm glad we seem to actually be taking things a bit more seriously on the pitch now. Football should always have entertainment at the forefront. I'm very pleased we've got Ange right now.
 
Lloris and Kane are absolute legends, but both were horrific leaders for this club.

They didn’t hold shit players to account, rarely grabbed games “by the neck” and didn’t exude natural leadership qualities.

In a side so devoid of natural leaders over the last 4 years, that really shone through for me.

Lloris literally did that in the documentary.

He also spoke out against the players who were letting the team down after the Zagreb result.
 
It is indeed.

But Tottenham have always had this sense of entertaining football. A "Tottenham way" - even when we've been proper shit.

The last four years of dull football mixed in with how much money has overtaken the game, sports washing etc has seriously seen my care for football be the lowest it's ever been.

I'm glad we seem to actually be taking things a bit more seriously on the pitch now. Football should always have entertainment at the forefront. I'm very pleased we've got Ange right now.
Yeah.

Thing is, Spurs are also the club that brought Ardiles and Villa to England, then Klinsmann.

The bravado of the club's heritage extends to the transfer market as well.
 
Lloris and Kane are absolute legends, but both were horrific leaders for this club.

They didn’t hold shit players to account, rarely grabbed games “by the neck” and didn’t exude natural leadership qualities.

In a side so devoid of natural leaders over the last 4 years, that really shone through for me.
To be fair, it's not really an option for a gk to "grab a game by the neck"...silly idea for a gk to be captain imo....
 
Yeah.

Thing is, Spurs are also the club that brought Ardiles and Villa to England, then Klinsmann.

The bravado of the club's heritage extends to the transfer market as well.

Seems opportunistic to make that claim when none of those players were even born when the like of Nicholson & Blanchflower made all those famous quotes..... Then of course there is the club moto dating back to the 1950s.


 
Seems opportunistic to make that claim when none of those players were even born when the like of Nicholson & Blanchflower made all those famous quotes..... Then of course there is the club moto dating back to the 1950s.


Ardiles and Villa were born in 1952, but I think I understand your point?

Spurs are not a little dollhouse of Victorian traditionalism, not some backward looking Little Englander node of purity in the game.

Spurs are of course an English football club, and English football has a long tradition and heritage and a certain set of values and ideas, but Spurs have long been defined, if anything, by a boldness and willingness to defy and upend those ideas, to be more progressive than those ideas.

We reach for the stars, and have managed to corral them on many occasions.

"At least we're better than the Sugar years" is not Spurs, just as surely as Mourinho-ist "who cares if you play decent football as long as you win" isn't Spurs.
 
Deki when he turns 25...

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How very dare you!


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