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Player Cristian Romero
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I don't like this logic or anology.
I think attributing losses or wins to players who have a direct influence to teams winning or losing is wrong, it completely takes away and influence from other players who may not have played such a key role but they played a role nonetheless. So for example Romero might have fucked up for the goal but if you're going to use that logic then Bergwijn should be held equally as accountable for missing that chance or Son or Kane should be held to the same standard of us losing the match because they were poor...you can repeat the same thing for any other player who took part in that match.
And even then like I said if you want to go down that route Romero has had a massive influence in us winning matches so you can easily say that the he is directly repsonsible for the wins but I don't see it like that. I don't subscribe to it because it's a team sport, win as a team and lose as a team and as much as we like to scapegoat and point the fingers when players cost us goals or don't play well then if you're going to do that every player ought to be held accountable.
I am not scapegoating him. He has made 2 mistakes that led to goals, both leading to 1-0 losses.
I like him as a player and he could even become a Spurs great. But he makes mistakes.
The greatest players make the fewest mistakes.
Potential goalscorers get a free ticket. It is normal for them to have many misses.
I'm not saying you are, you just made a statement without context that needs clarifying.
Saying that he is directly responsible for the goal is mostly correct, saying he is directly responsible for the loss is plain wrong, see the difference?
Goalscorers or strikers shouldn't get a free pass either, if a defender's primary job is to prevent a goal then it's a strikers job to score, if neither of them have done their jobs properly then they need to be held to the same standard if you're going to use your logic.
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How is he at fault for that Brighton goal? He wins the ball once, it unfortunately bounces off the Brighton player's chest and to the player's feet. He wins a 2nd tackle but he is falling over and the ball falls to Trossard while no other Spurs player steps to the ball. These bounces are unlucky and happen to every defender.
Dier then gets absolutely roasted 1 on 1 and practically gets out of the way of Trossard and we concede.
He's been at fault for some other goals but this one was not one.
Also that bolded part is probably a Jose line that is full of shit. That would make a backwards passing Winks the greatest player. Great players take risks and make the occasional mistake but the rewards outweigh the mistakes.
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2:35 for the Brighton goal.
Romero fecks up not once, not twice but thrice.
I'll let others decide whether they agree with you that Dier was to blame.
I certainly disagree.
Tbf Dier never really looks like he makes obvious errors now because he never really engages the opposition. Romero’s doing the heavy lifting in that back three so it’s more noticeable when it’s not perfect. Diers got it fairly easy at the moment next to a proactive and aggressive Romero and in a three. Dier hasn’t turned into a different player overnight, give him more defending to do the obvious errors will start to flow. He got sold on the shot by Trossard and turned his back
I’ve rewatched it enough to know. If you think Romero makes 3 mistakes on that play and dier doesnt make any, then you just don’t know the game. I would say Romero makes one mistake, letting the runner run behind him, but he makes up the ground easily. He gets unlucky on the tackles that bounce to the opposition.
Dier gets torched 1 on 1 from a poor angle. Nothing close to the Romero “mistakes.”
I know the game and there is nothing wrong with my eyes.
there was no mistakes sometimes the ball fall for you or it falls for the opponent thats how football goes.
fast becoming my favourite ever spurs defender
Can we trigger his buy clause already? Really hope we don’t fuck this up.
Rolls Royce ect ect.
Has really wound his neck in since being close to suspension and has kept his feet down more in challenges and done FAR less stupid shit, which were my only gripes. Still gets a bit too focused on the ball over opposition players at times, but last month especially, he's really improved.
He was fantastic today.
He was fantastic today.
MOTM again, absolute colossus and I fucking love him.