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A few weeks ago we went on Jeremy Vine’s BB2 radio show to talk to David Baddiel about Tottenham Hotspur fan’s use of the Y-word. David Baddiel, was David Baddiel, the formally decent comic (barring a few misplaced gags at Tottenham’s Jewish fanbase and getting blacked up while mocking Nottingham Forest striker Jason Lee because his dreadlocked hair, to Baddiel, looked like a pineapple – the player eventually reacted by shaving his head) turned crusader for the Jewish minority. As […]

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Yeah this was out a while ago. Baddiel tweeted saying that he had replied on Facebook, so if anyone can get hold of Mr Cowe/an to find out I would love to read his response.
 
Yeah this was out a while ago. Baddiel tweeted saying that he had replied on Facebook, so if anyone can get hold of Mr Cowe/an to find out I would love to read his response.

That makes my comment on the article look a bit foolish. I would love to know what Baddiel had to say, though. If the letter was from a few months ago, he has said stuff since then, hasn't he? I guess it wasn't enough to change his mind about things.
 
That makes my comment on the article look a bit foolish. I would love to know what Baddiel had to say, though. If the letter was from a few months ago, he has said stuff since then, hasn't he? I guess it wasn't enough to change his mind about things.

It was from a couple of weeks ago when it all kicked off again.

And another its Cowan not Cowen - and he's a lovely bloke.
 
Makes the point that this is Chelsea and West Ham's problem, but I still think that I've not heard anyone drive the ball home yet by trying to re-frame the debate. Everyone is just responding to Baddiel, but his mind is made up and he considers the matter closed. No amount of "fraternal spirit" arguments are going to change his mind, but if there was a concerted effort to re-frame the debate for the public at large, then maybe Spurs wouldn't seem the villains anymore.

The question should be: Why should the focus be on Spurs fans -- with the inordinate police presence targeting Spurs fans only -- while, beyond club statements of intent, supporters of Chelsea, West Ham, et al have in effect been given carte blanche for gas chamber hissing and Adolf Hitler chants? There has been absolutely no wider media coverage of the role that such supporters of Chelsea and West Ham have had in fostering such an atmosphere of hate, the focus has entirely been on the lone Spurs fan that was arrested for refusing to recognize the zero tolerance policy.

It seems that the FA and authorities are more concerned with Spurs supporters' offending opposing fans, rather than the vitriolic hate being spewed by large numbers of those fans at Spurs supporters.

The famous motto of Field of Dreams was "If you build it, they will come", but it seems the mantra of Baddiel, Herbert, and the FA is "If you ban it, they will quit." Well, consider me skeptical given that these are the same fans that chanted anti-semitic hate for years before Spurs fans ever embraced "the Y word."
 
Makes the point that this is Chelsea and West Ham's problem, but I still think that I've not heard anyone drive the ball home yet by trying to re-frame the debate. Everyone is just responding to Baddiel, but his mind is made up and he considers the matter closed. No amount of "fraternal spirit" arguments are going to change his mind, but if there was a concerted effort to re-frame the debate for the public at large, then maybe Spurs wouldn't seem the villains anymore.

The question should be: Why should the focus be on Spurs fans -- with the inordinate police presence targeting Spurs fans only -- while, beyond club statements of intent, supporters of Chelsea, West Ham, et al have in effect been given carte blanche for gas chamber hissing and Adolf Hitler chants? There has been absolutely no wider media coverage of the role that such supporters of Chelsea and West Ham have had in fostering such an atmosphere of hate, the focus has entirely been on the lone Spurs fan that was arrested for refusing to recognize the zero tolerance policy.

It seems that the FA and authorities are more concerned with Spurs supporters' offending opposing fans, rather than the vitriolic hate being spewed by large numbers of those fans at Spurs supporters.

The famous motto of Field of Dreams was "If you build it, they will come", but it seems the mantra of Baddiel, Herbert, and the FA is "If you ban it, they will quit." Well, consider me skeptical given that these are the same fans that chanted anti-semitic hate for years before Spurs fans ever embraced "the Y word."

Be interesting what happens at Upton Park for the return. On Sunday it seems the police only had to monitor a small section of Spammer fans, but only nicked a Spurs fan for saying the Y word. At UP the police will have to make sure three sections of the ground do not say the Y word, Hitler or hissing noises.

Wankers.
 
Be interesting what happens at Upton Park for the return. On Sunday it seems the police only had to monitor a small section of Spammer fans, but only nicked a Spurs fan for saying the Y word. At UP the police will have to make sure three sections of the ground do not say the Y word, Hitler or hissing noises.

Wankers.

They won't 'cos HE'S COMING FOR YOU, WE CAN'T SAY HIS NAME.... doesn't contain the Word 'HITLER'...

....unfortunately, the chant YID ARMY contains, quite obviously, the word YID!

Therefore, references to a dead Nazi leader somehow resurrecting and 'coming' for Spurs fans (I assume because all but less than 5% of us are Jewish, thanks for the stat Baddiel) is deemed LESS offensive than our 3-word retaliation...

Yup, this CUNTRY'S fucked alright!
 
It sounds like this Baddiel is a self appointed sole defender of a debate which is crying out for more representation and specialised comment than he is able to provide in his own limited space.
 
Has no one asked him why he chose to dress Andy Jacobs up as an Hasidic Jew and ask directions to Tottenham in his poxy little '90s football sketch show, if in fact, the total percentage of Spurs support is less than 5%? Why do this, if it clearly wasn't the case??
Maybe to point out the fact, that even IF our Jewish support is comparatively low, it still doesn't stop the Spurs=Jew myth being perpetuated by nazi scum who also choose to form allegiance with clubs like Chelsea and West Ham...
So David Baddiel, are you SUCH an incensed, outraged and offended Jew that you're prepared to sever your ties with such a despicable organisation such as Chelsea... or continue to point the finger of blame at N17 where it is LEAST deserved?
Yup, thought as much!
CUNT!
 
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