What Talksport interview?
I'm not surprised you're trying to hyperbolise
Show me a single quote that states specific medial advice was given?
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What Talksport interview?
I'm not surprised you're trying to hyperbolise
Show me a single quote that states specific medial advice was given?
Course youre going to pipe up - the master of hyperbole - anyone that comes on here, or anywhere and chooses to say person X 'LITERALLY SAID' something, the onus is on them to back that shit up - or else expect to get called out for chatting shit.
Not my fault you guys can't deal in nuanced conversation.
You think Ange just created that number then? the "60 minutes" the "70 minutes"...you think he's just decided himself that VDV is only fit enough to play those minutes? you need everything written in black and white? even when it's this obvious that a manager would be liaising with the medical team.
So when Ange says Sarr was not fit enough to play a game he started you think again he's just decided that? or that maybe just maybe he might have been informed by the medical team prior to the game that he's not fit to play.....hence Ange saying he was not fit enough to play.
You're a lost cause when it comes to discussing/debating anything Ange related so i'm not surprised you're spouting bollocks. "Show me where it states MEDICAL advice" God what a dweeb.
1. "advised by the medical team", he didn't say that.
2. "60 minutes max", he didn't say that.
Take those out and you're left with "Ange himself stated he... play VDV... against Chelsea"
Right and then you destroy some 16/17 year old kid because they are not ready for the men's team? It really isn't as easy as you think to just use kids. The kids need to be the right age. Very few clubs just throw them in if they aren't big talents, they are nearly always highly rated and on the cusp if they are thrown in.
Here is the deal, VDV played approximately 10-20 mins longer than planned because of an injury to Romero, then came off feeling tightness in his hammy but nothing that anyone felt was a concern directly after the game.
The fact that he played is much more likely to have resulted in the tighness after the game, there is no way to know if an extra 10-20mins had any impact at all. It's not some exact science where you can say he'd have been fine if he played 60 or 70mins. It just doesn't work like that.
Ange probably should never have mentioned it but after he did mention it, he probably regrets playing him for the extra 10-20mins. That doesn't mean those extra minutes caused the injury... If we look at the fact that he played 45 mins of walking pace against Elfborg and still needed to do some extra work on his running dynamics to feel properly comfortable should tell us that the issue was something deeper that they want to work out. Let's hope they have.
Normally Ange talks about any new injuries at the pre-match press conference - which must be soon?..
A record Nine hamstring injuries in a season (season not even done yet)
Ange having beef with the medical team to the point that the main guy that was here for 15 plus years with numerous managers packs it in and fucks off.
Ange playing a player more then what he should.
Ange starting another player who wasn't fit to play.
A key player coming out and saying he's been at "40%/50% for a while"
The captain coming out and saying that some of the injuries were inevitable and should have been foreseen.
Numerous players returning from injury early and then getting reinjured.
All this and the geezer wants to talk about "where was medical advice mentioned" lol.
Sensible post (unlike the poster you're quoting who doesn't even make sense).
HOLY SHIT
Richard Arlison
is a calm collective pillar of the community o7
kingdawson
I get you now but I do like our convo I've done some research and there's a jist & I get ya!
what a fun couple of hours
Richard Arlison
is a calm collective pillar of the community o7
kingdawson
I get you now but I do like our convo I've done some research and there's a jist & I get ya!what a fun couple of hours
You're a good guy.HOLY SHIT
what a fun couple of hours
Yeah the VDV situation is true and is the only example of potential recklessness by Ange. I think 60-70 mins was the medical advice and VDV pulled his hammy on 75 mins.
TBF, I could only imagine the uproar on here if he subbed off VDV for Archie Gray or Dorrington at 2-2 against Chelsea. Remember this was before Archie Gray had played any league games at centre back!
shame he didnt fuck off earlier, our medical department with him as head as been garbage since AVB
HOLY SHIT
what a fun couple of hours
Pretty sure there's few on here who wouldn't agree with the calm, collective pillar thing... might disagree even myself after a shit performance or a loss but I'll take it mate.
I'd say you've probably been more the calm collected type since you joined.
Yeah its laughable. These guys want to argue every little micro point tirelessly and demand evidence even though all the evidence for our medical failures and the team being run in to the ground is there. There's no excuse for it, our schedule has NOT been that bad and we've had lots of 'soft' mid-week games/cup ties.
Its obvious mistakes have been made this season, players have been rushed back, players have been overplayed, looked overtrained and exhausted. And we're total shit. 13th in the league. I dunno where fans get the energy to defend a guy so obviously doing terribly.
Well at least you didn't, like me get called out by Savva for 15 minutes this morning for being a lot of insulting words for just asking about VDV's pace
View: https://www.youtube.com/live/WIXULQOCTHs?si=Iv99FbE7sfz_ka92
Apparently the entire show I was trolling him - who knew 1 super chat could take someone over to the edge of a full blown SP@RG
I'm completely mocking the whole panel
hahahahaaaahha!!!I'm always calm this is a forum, we are all human I know what sarcasm is & I take nothing personally
I do look forward to us having a new manager and to see you behind the team! Maybe next season we can be friends
No no I'm not defending Ange - I just would like clarification on points that are made as 'Facts' I don't demand evidence but as I don't read or watch everything so it's nice to read people who have the effort to give examples.
I agree on mistakes that have been made but regarding the medical team only their information is relayed internally only but sometimes it's via pressers or articles via the manager or players so no offence I'm happy to ask if someone knows more than me about it.
This isn't a WE AGAINST YOU - sometimes it's just me trying to get to terms with peoples opinions. so nothing to me is laughable unless Ange comes out with a Didgeridoo pisses in it & explains 'it's who we are mate'