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Player Djed Spence

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when Spence was at RB in defensive mode he was always looking over his shoulders to check where the outside attacker was (good sign to me, if you watch the other RB/LB's they rarely check)
for the goal he recieved the ball and turned with it (again something most of our players rarely do)
also when playing RB (yes 25mins only) he was playing more defensive than Porro plays
when playing on the Left he played a lot more forward not so defensive (I like my defenders to defend first)
 

This really is a baffling comment from Ange.

Yes. Archie has done well when asked to play RB. No slight on him at all. But he is not an out and out RB. Djed is the depth at right back and has been misused by Ange so far this season. He could at least have gotten more minutes off the bench.
 
This really is a baffling comment from Ange.

Yes. Archie has done well when asked to play RB. No slight on him at all. But he is not an out and out RB. Djed is the depth at right back and has been misused by Ange so far this season. He could at least have gotten more minutes off the bench.
And let’s be real: if Davies was fit, Gray would have played at RB not Spence.
 
This really is a baffling comment from Ange.

Yes. Archie has done well when asked to play RB. No slight on him at all. But he is not an out and out RB. Djed is the depth at right back and has been misused by Ange so far this season. He could at least have gotten more minutes off the bench.

I can only assume there’s something behind the scenes or on the training ground that Ange does not want to go public with, as Spence certainly seems to be a viable option on the matchday pitch.
 
I think the honest answer is Ange didn’t seem to think much of him, based on whatever it was that made the last few managers also not rate him - I think last night he surprised Ange by what he can do in a game when called upon, as it appeared his performance against Coventry didn’t get him an extended chance.

I’m hoping he gets further more consistent chances moving forward now, but I’m not buying the ‘we just haven’t had room to fit him in’ type line.
 
This really is a baffling comment from Ange.

Yes. Archie has done well when asked to play RB. No slight on him at all. But he is not an out and out RB. Djed is the depth at right back and has been misused by Ange so far this season. He could at least have gotten more minutes off the bench.
As soon as the words came out of his mouth on TV last night I was wondering what the fuck he was talking about.

We have so much depth at fullback he's run both of them into the ground! I get hes trying to give the diplomatic, polite answer but it does feel like he's trying to gaslight us somewhat. We can all see Porro has been playing with an empty tank for a few weeks now.
 
He was very solid defensively even playing at LB. Some may say that it was only Soton - but on the other hand Porro when came in had couple of mistakes as usual. Said before, he gets GLC treatment from last year. Dont know why. He could at least rotate with Udogie in past games if Gray is first to cover RB... Would really love to see more a fullback like him that actually tries to tackle and block the cross instead of runing passively next to opponents winger.
 
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The manager needs to stop cutting his nose off to spite his face.
Spence made him look like a lost man today. The type of performance we all want to see.
Not “he’s doing well in training but I will only play him as a last resort & even then I’m not happy”.
After Madders he was easily MOTM for me.
Looked assured in defence & attack on both sides.
Judging yesterday , Djed looks like he is well liked by all the players and played very well . Whatever the reasons are he hasn't been playing doesn't make sense when you put them two facts together .

Deserves a good run in the team now
 
This really is a baffling comment from Ange.

Yes. Archie has done well when asked to play RB. No slight on him at all. But he is not an out and out RB. Djed is the depth at right back and has been misused by Ange so far this season. He could at least have gotten more minutes off the bench.

I think Ange just sees developing Archie as one of his / the club's biggest priorities, and has been willing to sacrifice Djed's minutes for that.
 
Ange said in post match its been hard to give Spence mins with Gray there to cover - wtaf!? Covering himself there - he clearly has an issue with him.
I like Gray, looks a class prospect but Spence above him at RB is an absolute no brainer in any game.

Afghhfhdhdhdhhdhd
That just boils my piss to no end.

EVERY. FUCKING. PERSON. With at least TWO functioning braincells can see some obvious things -
1) Gray is technically amazing talent - and at 18 yo too! I love him. He IS special. But HE IS NOT A FULLBACK! He does not have required explosive-first-few-steps-pace.
2) When you need goals, DO NOT FUCKING BRING ON DONKEY THAT CANNOT SCORE TO SAVE HIS LIFE that is Werner, when you have our TOP EPL GOAL CONTRIBUTOR Madders on the bench (!).
3) SON IS NOT STRIKER in this system!! He is club legend and elite finisher but he CANNOT HOLD THE BALL UP and press like Solanke does (!).

Only first one is relevant in this context.
Come the fuck on - having Gray around does no way limit moments to give Djed some playing time here and there.
I am not suggesting to make him undisputed starter. But come on - Djed has got some actual playing time in THREE occasions.
vs Coventry in Carabao - scored goal of massive importance to put us level
vs ManU where the game was more or less put to bed when he came on (leading 3:0, playing 11 vs 10) and helped to keep 1 out of 4 clean sheets in EPL this season
vs Soton where he almost single-handedly created opening goal in FIRST MINUTE of the game, setting us up to rampage.

Looking at like this - Spence has now played 140 minutes (out of 360) in the games where we've kept clean sheets.
And with his 186 minutes on the field he has scored 1 and assisted 1.
What more can he fucking do. But Ange still goes to pressers to spout shit about having no options and whatnot. Aghhrrr.
 
I liked what i seen with his short cameo v Coventry and thought yeah he defo got lot to like and had been disappointed was not being used with injuries we have had and really no real solid feedback on why not..

He looks to play the game on the front foot and always looking and checking his angles and distances to opposition (real good sign)
His turn and movement and then sublime pass for ist goal really set the tone for the game i thought ,also he did everything asked of him and more during game,didnt miss a beat when switched sides either.

Really pleased for the lad and his contribution to the team.
Upwards and Onwards
COYS.
 
Maybe this bloke has a phobia to the training cones or something. Fucked if I know.

A bloke does what he's asked and expected, he gets another chance to go round. I can't think of a reason not to play him at this point. Seems nobody else can either.

C'mon Ange get your shit together!
 
Thought he took his chance tonight.
Makes his omission from Europa squad even more baffling.
A really solid performance on both flanks.
Well done DJed.
Yea
Not just DJed. I’ve no better idea than you about what he does or doesn’t do in training. But it’s been painfully obvious that our fullbacks need a break or risk them getting injured too. Lo and behold, Spence comes in today and puts in an admirable shift for the shirt on both flanks.
It’s a wider issue. And it will get Ange fired if he’s not careful. From last years Chelsea game he shows few signs of changing things up or protecting a lead when it starts looking frayed around the edges on the pitch.
We don’t work on set pieces, we only play one way etc. all from the horses mouth.
I thought we protected our lead well today btw. But we’d stuck 3 past a really shit side before a lot of fans had got to their seats.
They were broken and had no belief. We will continue to pulverise teams like that.
If we could protect a two goal lead every time we had it, we’d be challenging at the top of the table.
And that starts with team selection and in game management. Be honest- Spence would have been nowhere near the starting line up if we’d not been decimated with injuries. He’d rather play 18 year old Gray out of position than a recognised full back who can cover both flanks.
Hopefully Spence today put a dent in that stubborn attitude that bugs me about Ange.
If it’s working, no need to tinker.
But to keep doing the same thing hoping for a different result often ends in accusations of insanity.

TDLR?

See below.
Here, here.
 
This really is a baffling comment from Ange.

Yes. Archie has done well when asked to play RB. No slight on him at all. But he is not an out and out RB. Djed is the depth at right back and has been misused by Ange so far this season. He could at least have gotten more minutes off the bench.
he's trying to justify his thick as pig shit decision of running our full backs to the ground whilst not giving Spence a chance.
 
About time he played, should have been on the pitch in November, he's clearly able enough to push Porro - one of Ange's fuck ups but anyway glad he's playing now and he proved yesterday he's capable at this level - he needs a run in the team!
 
Djed showed last night exactly what he could do perfectly

If he doesn’t get more game time off the back of that, then it’s a bit of a disgrace imo
 
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