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Player Djed Spence

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Kosher Kid said:
Maybe the reckoning for these issues has not yet come about?

That thought has not occurred to you has it?

All three of these issues are still ongoing.

The people who object and protest about these matters have not stopped or gone away.

The struggles are ongoing.

I'm from Irish stock.

It took 800 years to get rid of the British.

24 years of Levy is a piece of piss when juxtaposed with that.

Levy and uncle Joe can't take the money they have paid themselves with them.

THFC will be around for a long time after they depart.

Same for Tony Blair and the sponsers of all wars.

Apathy has been winning for a while but these things tend to be an explosion when it all goes off.

Good luck with the NGO.

I understand why Trump makes you twitchy now.
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The Iraq protests aren't still ongoing?

And the fact you're even comparing outing Daniel Levy to the Irish struggle against the British or Women getting the vote is laughable.

You don't want Levy out for the better of society - you want him out so Spurs can win a trophy or two.... removing levy isn't going to change the game or make any difference in the scale of what has made it so hard for a team like spur to succeed without matching the money that is spent by murderous regimes...
 
dudu said:
The Iraq protests aren't still ongoing?

And the fact you're even comparing outing Daniel Levy to the Irish struggle against the British or Women getting the vote is laughable.

You don't want Levy out for the better of society - you want him out so Spurs can win a trophy or two.... removing levy isn't going to change the game or make any difference in the scale of what has made it so hard for a team like spur to succeed without matching the money that is spent by murderous regimes...
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There are plenty of people in the UK who feel aggrieved about the Iraq War.

The protest against the people involved in the illegal invasion and occupation will never end.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VO6iosHwrE

Protest works and Levy's destiny is in the hands of all THFC supporters.

The more people who realise this the sooner Levy will be gone from N17.

Keep the faith Dudu.

We're coming for you.
 
djchotspur said:
WHy Udogie? He is cut out for this level, he is also 3 years younger than Spence. udogie was also never rotated and run into the ground before his injury.
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shit footballer, has no instincts when it comes to defending which is a HUGE red flag for defenders! his decision making on the ball is also poor because...hes a shit footballer. hes literally fooled people because they watch him dribble 15 yards and thinks hes good because he looks ok doing that. far more to the game than that my friend, far more!

ill be willing to give him 6 months under a proper football manager as hes not had that here, but to me he looks way off this level, the biggest concern is watching him not get goal side when hes defending, he positions himself in the worst possible way, its school boy stuff...poor school boy at that!
 
Kosher Kid said:
There are plenty of people in the UK who feel aggrieved about the Iraq War.

The protest against the people involved in the illegal invasion and occupation will never end.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VO6iosHwrE

Protest works and Levy's destiny is in the hands of all THFC supporters.

The more people who realise this the sooner Levy will be gone from N17.

Keep the faith Dudu.

We're coming for you.
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Show me these protests and where they are?

Also, mate - I actually think it's pretty poor taste to be comparing protesting against Daniel Levy to women's rights and the Civil Rights movement -

Seriously, do you hear yourself lol

This is why anti-ENIC protests get like 20 people turning up - no one wants to be associated with a bunch of people thinking they are being persecuted against their will LOL.

Fucking hell - now I know you are trolling.

You actually had me there
 
Kosher Kid said:
There are plenty of people in the UK who feel aggrieved about the Iraq War.

The protest against the people involved in the illegal invasion and occupation will never end.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VO6iosHwrE

Protest works and Levy's destiny is in the hands of all THFC supporters.

The more people who realise this the sooner Levy will be gone from N17.

Keep the faith Dudu.

We're coming for you.
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dudu dudu and Kosher Kid Kosher Kid what will you spend the time with your ban doing.? Let go of this. In the name of the Djedi
 
manmountainbutters said:
Love Djed. Worried about him being dragged into the gutter by Ange like so many others
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Like so many others whose only excellent performances at the highest level have also only ever come under Ange.

Udogie, Sarr, you could argue Van de Ven and Porro, these guys peaks as footballers, the reason we think they can play in the first place, is because of what they've done under Ange.

The tactics fail to get sufficient results for the team, sure, perfectly fair argument. He's broken players physically, hard to refute.

But on an individual level him turning players into worse versions of themselves just doesn't seem accurate at all and yet people keep saying so.
 
FightingIllini said:
Like so many others whose only excellent performances at the highest level have also only ever come under Ange.

Udogie, Sarr, you could argue Van de Ven and Porro, these guys peaks as footballers, the reason we think they can play in the first place, is because of what they've done under Ange.

The tactics fail to get sufficient results for the team, sure, perfectly fair argument. He's broken players physically, hard to refute.

But on an individual level him turning players into worse versions of themselves just doesn't seem accurate at all and yet people keep saying so.
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Udogie is a worse player now than before. Bentancur and Bissouma appear to have regressed. Son as well. Romero arguably worse- prob just his head gone though. VdV- broken physically. Richy- regressed. Porro- not improved, potentially worse at defending now. Johnson- unimproved. Solanke- not improved. Kulu- not improved, arguably has regressed. Lankshear- ignored. Moore- mostly been ill so far, in a natural development cycle hard to suppress even with bad coaching.

Reflecting on this- the poor form of these players seems to also correspond with our league position. I find that gives me more confidence in the assessments made above.
 
bk_spur said:
Udogie is a worse player now than before.
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He absolutely is. But "before" was last season under Ange.

So much of the anti-Ange invective has come to be dead-certain claims that it would be impossible in a trillion years for Ange to accomplish things which he already accomplished last season.

As a matter of how fans ought to perceive him but ESPECIALLY as a way of understanding how Levy sees him, I think people need to acknowledge that (injury management aside) Ange has been a pretty good steward of the squad as a portfolio of assets.

High priced players have become totally useless deadwood that can't be on the field and can't be sold at any price all the time under previous managers. Not only has that not happened under Ange, he's brought prior deadwood back to life, see Djed.
 
FightingIllini said:
Ange has been a pretty good steward of the squad as a portfolio of assets.
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You think our squad value has increased in this time, because of Ange?

Other than youngsters with inevitable growth cycles like Bergvall and Gray, and lucky fortune with Spence, I am not sure who you might be referring to that has grown in value as an asset because of Ange.

Is VdV sellable right now? Certainly not for anything close to what he would be worth if he could demonstrate consistent fitness. Romero is probably worth about the same now as he was at the end of the Conte season.
 
FightingIllini said:
He absolutely is. But "before" was last season under Ange.

So much of the anti-Ange invective has come to be dead-certain claims that it would be impossible in a trillion years for Ange to accomplish things which he already accomplished last season.

As a matter of how fans ought to perceive him but ESPECIALLY as a way of understanding how Levy sees him, I think people need to acknowledge that (injury management aside) Ange has been a pretty good steward of the squad as a portfolio of assets.

High priced players have become totally useless deadwood that can't be on the field and can't be sold at any price all the time under previous managers. Not only has that not happened under Ange, he's brought prior deadwood back to life, see Djed.
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By accomplished do you mean that ten game run before other teams had look under the hood. And worked it out...them games are doing so much heavy lifting. Djed was never deadwood just ignored by small men.
 
bk_spur said:
You think our squad value has increased in this time, because of Ange?
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I take no position on whether it is BECAUSE of Ange.

But is our squad value higher than it was on the day Kane left? That's beyond any reasonable contestation, surely.

The value of the squad has been on an upward trajectory since the Nuno period. You look at those Nuno squads and bar Kane and Son his Forest teams are way WAY better man for man.
 
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FightingIllini said:
Like so many others whose only excellent performances at the highest level have also only ever come under Ange.

Udogie, Sarr, you could argue Van de Ven and Porro, these guys peaks as footballers, the reason we think they can play in the first place, is because of what they've done under Ange.

The tactics fail to get sufficient results for the team, sure, perfectly fair argument. He's broken players physically, hard to refute.

But on an individual level him turning players into worse versions of themselves just doesn't seem accurate at all and yet people keep saying so.
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I’m not sure about that at all. They may have burned brightly. But they have dimmed dramatically. It’s compound effect.

Most of these guys have only ever been seen by us under Ange. With alll of them the trajectory is downwards.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
By accomplished do you mean that ten game run before other teams had look under the hood. And worked it out...them games are doing so much heavy lifting. Djed was never deadwood just ignored by small men.
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10 games has been well and truly debunked.

We had 16 game stretch from December that was better and we did it without VDV, Romero, Son, Sarr and Bissouma

The thing about the 10 games was it’s our best ever start to a season in the PL so people fixated on it and started to believe we could really challenge.

Truth is some of the football we played at the start of this season was better than the football we played in those 10 games.
 
Richard Arlison said:
10 games has been well and truly debunked.

We had 16 game stretch from December that was better and we did it without VDV, Romero, Son, Sarr and Bissouma

The thing about the 10 games was it’s our best ever start to a season in the PL so people fixated on it and started to believe we could really challenge.

Truth is some of the football we played at the start of this season was better than the football we played in those 10 games.
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That 16 game stretch what was the wins loses draws ratio...because 'better' seems a stretch. How many back to back wins we rack up.
 
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