Not negative at all. Realistic. Doesn't mean I don't have hope.
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Hello nail-head, this is the hammer
I thought he put in a great shift but the guy one seat away from me was on his back all game, and I couldn't help remonstrating with him - everyone's entitled to their opinion after all, but he was totally WRONG.
This feels like the thread relating to Kane, earlier in the season. How wrong some of you were. We have a very good player in Lamela and as with Kane, he just needs that something to happens to turn his fortune. Maybe a new position or a winner tomorrow.
Wasn't it another case of 'he put a shift in' and tried hard though? He was good as part of the overall unit but £30m worth?
Ok, agree the price tag isn't his fault but, that's what we invested in him. Separate point but when the hell have we ever had £30m to spend on a finished product let alone a prospect with far more question marks over him than obvious attributes.
Ok it's his first season in effect but we've seen enough to know....
Strength - limited
Pace - ok but not much above average
Height - above average but not an aerial threat
Passing - moments of class but dwells on the ball or misses early passes constantly
Shooting - ok, some promise, poor conversion rate I bet
Set pieces - average (how much adjusting to the league/country do they require?)
Attitude and effort - very good (but so would mine be)
Goals - a couple, an amazing one included
He is 21 not 19, I think Ronaldo was way ahead of him even then. That's not saying he's expected to reach that level of world's best or even world class but, mentioning him as a benchmark he's miles off his course if he was even to get to 75% as good.
I'm afraid he was a huge gamble and would've been a huge gamble even if he'd been half as good again already - the price tag and decision to sign him for that is baffling and somebody has to be accountable surely? Especially if they sanctioned Soldado and Paulinho as well!! Soldado situation is an unlucky and jinxed one but it's £73m worth (if full fees payable) which we're getting £15m worth out of so far in nearly 2years!!!
Different teams, different era's, different players.
We are here because of the contributions of Poch, assistant coaches, players and backroom people.
Lets back them and not worry about previous form and what if.
There is no norm in sport if you think that then you live in the past!
I think the main reason people get upset is because of the 30 mil and unless he becomes bale, their opinions won't change.
Errm...how did we follow up the Chelsea and Woolwich games this very season again......?
We invested 16M in Bent and hes better than twice as good?
forget the price tag, look at thd player. We havd a good young player. Possibly good enough ti build a team around him. Thats how high I rate him. Time will tell?
Ronaldo had the benifit of playing in an established side. Lamela jusf needs to sort out his decision making and all will be good.
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The major difference being that that "something" was simply being picked in Kane´s case.
Lamela has been picked, and to be honest, looks no better than the few appearances he made last season. He is not improving.
Kane looked good when he broke through last winter under Sherwood. One year on, he is already twice the player.
Lamela thinks he´s better than he is. Massive problem.
That is a shocking claim
Ronaldo made his team debut as a 60th-minute substitute in a 4–0 home victory over Bolton Wanderers,[46] and produced a performance hailed by Alex Ferguson as "marvellous".[47][48] His early form earned high praise from United legend George Best, who said that Ronaldo was "special",[39] while former manager Ron Atkinson effused about his "his pace and quick thinking" and how it meant United could "spring very quickly from defence into attack".[49]
He scored his first goal for Manchester United with a free kick in a 3–0 win over Portsmouth on 1 November 2003.[50] His only other league goals in the season all came in 2004; he scored the second in a 3–0 win against Tottenham Hotspur on 20 March,[51] the equalising goal in a 2–1 victory away to Birmingham City on 10 April,[52] and the opener in a 2–0 victory over Aston Villa on the final day of the season in a game in which he also received his first red card.[53] Ronaldo also scored in the fifth round of the 2003–04 FA Cup in a 4–2 Manchester derby against Manchester City.[54] Ronaldo ended his first season in English football by scoring the opening goal in United's 3–0 FA Cup Final victory over Millwall,[55] with his performance receiving praise from Gary Neville who said "I think Ronaldo can be one of the top footballers in the world".
Sorry, but why are people bringing up Ronaldo´s first season with regards to Lamela?
He scored his first goal for Manchester United with a free kick in a 3–0 win over Portsmouth on 1 November 2003.[50] His only other league goals in the season all came in 2004; he scored the second in a 3–0 win against Tottenham Hotspur on 20 March,[51] the equalising goal in a 2–1 victory away to Birmingham City on 10 April,[52] and the opener in a 2–0 victory over Aston Villa on the final day of the season in a game in which he also received his first red card.[53] Ronaldo also scored in the fifth round of the 2003–04 FA Cup in a 4–2 Manchester derby against Manchester City.[54] Ronaldo ended his first season in English football by scoring the opening goal in United's 3–0 FA Cup Final victory over Millwall,[55] with his performance receiving praise from Gary Neville who said "I think Ronaldo can be one of the top footballers in the world".
Sorry, but why are people bringing up Ronaldo´s first season with regards to Lamela?
For me Sammy it was more regarding his physique. He looks a bit lightweight for the prem in my opinion and I remember Ronaldo in his first season constantly going to ground. Season 2 and he had really beefed up. Lamela could do with a bit of that and maybe he could hold people off of the ball better.
I agree , its a big claim? but he has the potential.
Has he got the ability and talant-yes. Has he got the presence-no. Does he need to develop and mature as a player yes. He is a lot better than some give him credit.
Not a problem if he comes good, then you need that arrogance to be the best.
Every time I see Lamela run with the ball I remember this
I suggest Poch put him in a position where he does one-touch passes only and not be forced to run with the ball .. he looks so uncomfortable dribbling the ball and it doesn't look easy on the eye either.
Also, putting him wide is not working obviously.... When Poch wants to put him in he needs to find a way to mae it work with him and Eriksen on the field....
In the summer, swallow your pride Levy and sell him, then let Baldini go since he screwed ou big time for the sake of his former club..
I suggest Poch put him in a position where he does one-touch passes only and not be forced to run with the ball .. he looks so uncomfortable dribbling the ball and it doesn't look easy on the eye either.
Also, putting him wide is not working obviously.... When Poch wants to put him in he needs to find a way to mae it work with him and Eriksen on the field....
In the summer, swallow your pride Levy and sell him, then let Baldini go since he screwed ou big time for the sake of his former club..
I agree, when dribbling he looks very uncomfortable. It's like he has no plan in his head and is just hoping something will happen. He never runs into space, he runs into a block of players all the time.
His one touch and link up play can be very good, when he releases the ball early, but he very rarely does.
I just don't think it's gonna happen for him at spurs. I see why we would want to give him another season due to his price tag, but personally I would cut my losses if I was levy,
and try and get a good deal to get him back to italy. Then send baldini back on the same plane. .....2 easyjet tickets...speedyboarding not included.
His one touch and link up play can be very good, when he releases the ball early, but he very rarely does.
I just don't think it's gonna happen for him at spurs. I see why we would want to give him another season due to his price tag, but personally I would cut my losses if I was levy,
and try and get a good deal to get him back to italy. Then send baldini back on the same plane. .....2 easyjet tickets...speedyboarding not included.
And you know this because you are the forums resident psychologist yes?[/QUOTE]