Newcastle are just as big a club as Man City were pre dodgy nation state takeover, probably bigger.
They will more than likely simply try to fiddle their way forward as City have.
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They will more than likely simply try to fiddle their way forward as City have.
So let's say they get to 270 next year with CL money (which will be around 50m not 100m). How do they sustain that, if they do not get CL every year? Spurs, on the other hand, have a ton of revenue streams and CL just makes for a bumper year.
The PL TV prize money and their 50K stadium is already baked in and even if they increase ticket prices, it won't make that much of a difference.
There is no way they are surpassing us in 23/24. 20th on the global list compared to 10th (us) is still a little more than half our revenue. They have a long ways to go still.
Anyone know a Ryan at the club?
In a year when our total turnover was around 300m and we were in the process of building a stadium we should have just spent it all on players, eh?
Go buy yourself a Lamborghini. You should be able to afford it based on your financial logic.
To be clear, what you are saying is absolutely correct, that Newcastle (like everyone) is highly dependent upon CL football in order to sustain revenue levels, and also that for ANY GIVEN European competition level, Spurs would bring in more.
The problem? Newcastle are well positioned to be a perennial CL team, and we're miles and miles and miles off that. The enormous present day gulf in competitive status has profound revenue implications going forward.
We are going to go downward without European football though.
Our take for the season just ended will be gigantic, Spurs largest ever in absolute and PL-relative terms. It will be our first time ever among the revenue top four since the numbers have started being compiled. We might edge United, which would have been unimaginable a decade ago.
But our huge ability to draw revenue from midweek European nights is a sword that cuts two ways unfortunately.
City didn't fiddle their way forward, though. They had several years to pump a shitload of money into the club without having to worry about FFP. Once FFP came about their seed spending had started to generate revenue. And even then they still had to do some accounting gymnastics to get by. And you think that Newcastle in this environment will be able to emulate that without the benefit of the head start that City got?
What would suggest that Newcastle is well positioned to be a perennial CL team? Even United with their financial might, are in one year out the next. And you think Newcastle with less than half their revenue will be a perennial CL team?
They're, good, young, quite well coached, have an idea of how they want to play, and will spend massively to supplement what they already have?
Adding the CL burden will be a major challenge, no doubt. And spending wisely is always difficult, even though they shown a remarkable eye for a player so far.
But everyone is just casually equating their current situation with Mark Hughes-and-Robinho era City. Oh, they'll just toss it all overboard when they're "ready". But no, this is a heck of a football team right now. Dan Burn is not Richard Dunne. Joelinton is not Stephen Ireland. Kieran Trippier is not Micah Richards.
I'd back them to be City's nearest challenger next year atm, sight unseen of their summer business.
The summer and next season won’t be as easy for the horse punchers as some seem to think. We know, through our own personal suffering, how difficult it is to look at a team that performed very well and decide which of their players they are going to dump out of their first team and squad.
Also remember that no matter how good a season they had, they drew more than a third of their matches. A few goals here no there and they’d have ended up in the Europa. I personally don’t think they are as good as some on here seem to think. Plenty of shit-housing and fortune got them where it got them. Let’s see how they cope with heightened expectations, higher pressure and euro football.
No doubt, they’ll be able to employ some kind of fiscal chicanery to add to their side, but I’m guessing a 6th / 7th finish next season.
Also remember that no matter how good a season they had, they drew more than a third of their matches. A few goals here no there and they’d have ended up in the Europa. I personally don’t think they are as good as some on here seem to think. Plenty of shit-housing and fortune got them where it got them. Let’s see how they cope with heightened expectations, higher pressure and euro football.
No doubt, they’ll be able to employ some kind of fiscal chicanery to add to their side, but I’m guessing a 6th / 7th finish next season.
You think Woolwich will finish higher than them?
A place either side. If Newcastle are 6th, they’ll be 7th and vice versa.
The best thing we have going for us in the hopes of not being passed up by Newcastle permanently is....they have to play in fucking Newcastle.
Why not?
If they want to nick our best player, what are we going to just deal with it quietly?
Oh its only Tottenham?
Something something murderous regime something something human rights abuses
Presume we’ve moved on from rimming that hideous lot down the road since they bottled the league.
Where are we then, 10th?
Guy has got emotional.
I chastise myself for getting involved. I got emotional when I said I'd block him. I'd never block him. Wrong decision.
He was/is a good poster. But he's aged. Think he's 60 now.
I'm not ageist but the likes of him, Baz and hab are just reactionary now.
Thinking about the past.