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I get the feeling all the players on big wages are off soon and Levy will try and bring back Poch, or similar, and will play all the young players in an attacking system, while hoping for the best, with a low wage bill.

I hope I'm wrong.

To dare is too dear
I agree with you mate, you can see what is happening.
They primary concern is the lowest wage to turnover in the league, that is how accountants measure success I guess.
To dare is indeed to dear.
 
I’m aware that they left because they wanted to leave but they could see that they weren’t going to win trophies staying at Spurs. Most top players want to have success in their careers & if they can see that they are at a club who’s ambition doesn’t match there’s, they will move on to bigger clubs where they will win trophies
When Gareth Bale joined, he certainly wasn't a world class superstar, same as Modric. There were alot of Spurs fans at the time who were probably fed up of Bale as I remember he had that terrible run of games with us. Modric used to get criticised for not getting enough assists, plus let's not forget he was voted La Liga worst ever signing when he first joined Madrid. Modric and Bale were also playing for us at the time where we don't have the infrastructure and facilities we do now. Put it this way, if the new stadium and facilities we built didn't happen would we have been in a position to offer Kane a 6 year deal on 200k a week plus massive bonuses if we were still at smaller WHL? I'm not sure.
 
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Aye, the goalposts were moved. I responded to someone saying that we sold ALL our best players by saying that wasn’t true. Four players were then named in response. Goalposts moving indeed.

But as long as you get your funnies from your acolytes, who cares about the truth?
 
They sign players the managers want, and don’t faff around for months trying to shave off pennies.

They replace managers with similar managers, rather than veer from defensive manager, to up and coming manager to big name manager…… no structure or continuity in our madness
I'm with you on the managers, and our previous negotiating tactics.

Not the players though.
 
...you are being silly
What happened to all those managers who failed?
Sacked.
Your obviously happy with 1 league Cup in 20 odd years of ownership. Enic-Levy don't care about trophies... if they did we would have a decent scouting system and would back the managers properly...its happy clappers like you that seem to wank off over balance sheets and hosting NFL and defend Levy at every turn.
That's my point.

Bad manager appointment = Levy bad.
Good management appointment = Luck.

Can you quote where I said I'm happy with 1 league cup ? That's right you can't.

We did have a decent scouting system until our old head scout was poached (forget his name). Our recruitment went to shit when Levy backed Poch in not having a DoF, and Poch wanting more of a say in transfers. Ending up with us signing shite like Ndombele and Lo Celso for big money .
You can blame Levy for that fair enough.

It's not my fault that people such as yourself have no concept as to how finances work.

We now have a competent DoF running our recruitment.

Since the new stadium has been open to the public we are the 3rd highest spenders in the league.

That's backing the manager.
 
Aye, the goalposts were moved. I responded to someone saying that we sold ALL our best players by saying that wasn’t true. Four players were then named in response. Goalposts moving indeed.

But as long as you get your funnies from your acolytes, who cares about the truth?
"Levy sells all our best players, he's a cunt. He shouldn't be doing that"

"Levy's not selling our best players, he's a cunt. He should be selling them "

And you're the one moving the goalposts.

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. In fact, the most recent stick to batter the club with is our inability to cash in on players when they are at their prime. I keep seeing we should’ve got rid of Lloris, Kane and Son in the last couple of years.
Nope. We should have added the kind of quality those players deserve to have playing alongside them.
Then the likes of Harry Kane would not be in danger of ending their career without a single pot to piss in, so to speak.
In fact, most of the comments claiming we should have sold Kane or Son have come from €NIC / Levy suppprters
 
You asked for names so I gave you names. There’s are only 2 main reasons why players usually want to leave a club which are money & trophies. Most top players want to be successful & win trophies & they could see that that wasn’t going to happen at Tottenham.
We want to sign top players but moan when they inevitably want to move onto better teams. Only way they don’t move is with average players gelling and working well as the collective… but then your manager gets poached (see Potter). It’s a lose lose
 
Nope. We should have added the kind of quality those players deserve to have playing alongside them.
Then the likes of Harry Kane would not be in danger of ending their career without a single pot to piss in, so to speak.
In fact, most of the comments claiming we should have sold Kane or Son have come from €NIC / Levy suppprters
Lols, like top players aren’t looking for a huge pay day and quick guaranteed trophies. they’re not sitting about hoping others will show up. They just leave, and quickly
 
How can I put this?

Under ENIC Spurs sell all their best players or the best players run their contracts down and leave.

None of us know the finer details of the deals that take our players away.

What we can guess is that the players leave for more money first and foremost and if winning trophies is more realistic at the new club that is a bonus.

Those of us who are sick of ENIC want them to either behave like the clubs our best players always leave us to join or sell the club to owners who will pay the best wages, to the best players, and help Spurs to compete and win trophies.

After 20 years ENIC can no longer claim bad luck or greedy players have cost Spurs success.

It's ENIC.

English National INVESTMENT Company.

An investment company that don't invest enough in football players salaries.
I get it but earlier you stated your opinion on certain players leaving as fact when it was far from it. There are plenty of reasons to be frustrated with ENIC, of which some of those you have stated are not.

like I say, I’m not happy and am losing patience, Nuno was a massive red flag to me, same with Jose. Conte is better but I’m not sure it’s a good fit, only time will tell if we really back him but in my opinion we’ve done ok to date but need to keep momentum
 
Every single one of these players was sold or left because of the players request. You can't blame ENIC for selling two world class players to arguably the biggest club in world football. Levy even said to Modric to stay another year and I'll sell you to Real Madrid rather than to Chelsea who wanted him orginally. Eriksen ran his contract down because he wanted a new challenge so not sure that is ENIC fault. Walker fell out with Poch.
What I don't understand is how many 'supporters' seem willing to forgive Levy for selling off Spurs elite level players but are unwilling to condemn him for not selling the club to an owner who would have made Spurs an elite level club and would also have prevented us from having to watch Chelsea emerge as a bigger club than Spurs.

How can it be?
 
I get it but earlier you stated your opinion on certain players leaving as fact when it was far from it. There are plenty of reasons to be frustrated with ENIC, of which some of those you have stated are not.

like I say, I’m not happy and am losing patience, Nuno was a massive red flag to me, same with Jose. Conte is better but I’m not sure it’s a good fit, only time will tell if we really back him but in my opinion we’ve done ok to date but need to keep momentum
Spurs got Nuno because Levy thought he could get away with two bobbing it.

When he heard ENIC OUT he shit the bed and has been paying Conte 15 million a year compensation, up front, to soak up the shit that should have been going his way and buy him some more time to come up with more excuses.

If your patience hasn't run out already you are either beyond help or a close family relative of Levy.
 
What happened is that Rose, Toby, Eriksen and now Kane ran their contracts down.

Kane has taken this action because Levy blocked his move to Man City, probably by asking for more than City wanted to pay, and Rose, Toby and Eriksen were probably pissed off when Kane, Dele, Son and Lloris were remunerated disproportionately to their long term deals, which were concluded before the huge injection of TV cash that Kane, Son, Dele and Hugo got rewarded with.

The deals signed before the extra Tv revenue were the ones where Poch was pictured with his arm around all the players as they penned the deal. Every picture looked the same.

Morale has been low ever since and the footballing side has suffered.
You are again way off the mark with your statements. Toby was offered and signed a new contract, Eriksen was offered a much improved contract, stated it wasn’t about money and said he wanted to play in Spain or Italy. You’re just making stuff up which weakens the argument.

i get it. You hate them, you have personally been impacted by some of their shit decisions. I have sympathy for you, I’ve felt the same way at times as I’ve been going to the Lane for 40 years…
 
You are again way off the mark with your statements. Toby was offered and signed a new contract, Eriksen was offered a much improved contract, stated it wasn’t about money and said he wanted to play in Spain or Italy. You’re just making stuff up which weakens the argument.

i get it. You hate them, you have personally been impacted by some of their shit decisions. I have sympathy for you, I’ve felt the same way at times as I’ve been going to the Lane for 40 years…
Toby ran his contract down before he signed his last deal.

Eriksen clearly hates Levy for paying him 65k a week and giving Dele 200k a week.

There is no argument.

ENIC are parasites who rinse their customers, employees and competitors while treating them all with contempt.
 
Spurs got Nuno because Levy thought he could get away with two bobbing it.

When he heard ENIC OUT he shit the bed and has been paying Conte 15 million a year compensation, up front, to soak up the shit that should have been going his way and buy him some more time to come up with more excuses.

If your patience hasn't run out already you are either beyond help or a close family relative of Levy.
Pretty sure Fabio wanted Nuno… where are you getting this stuff from?
 
What I don't understand is how many 'supporters' seem willing to forgive Levy for selling off Spurs elite level players but are unwilling to condemn him for not selling the club to an owner who would have made Spurs an elite level club and would also have prevented us from having to watch Chelsea emerge as a bigger club than Spurs.

How can it be?
Who have ENIC/Levy sold since Kyle Walker in 2017 to a direct rival?
 
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