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Further onfirmation of exactly what I and many others on here AND numerous ex managers..have been saying for years.

It's like being taken to a restaurant while starving hungry after being deprived of food for a few days...

1st choice. Filet mignon with Dauphine potatoes: off the menu

2nd choice. Roast Aberdeen beef with sauted vegetables, : Off the menu

3rd Choice. Chicken Nuggets with spicy wedges: Off the menu

Eventually you settle for the beans on toast.

It's no wonder every manager Levy appoints eventually gets worn down and becomes his latest scapegoat
Is it bad that nuggets and spicy wedges would be my first choice?
 
Further onfirmation of exactly what I and many others on here AND numerous ex managers..have been saying for years.

It's like being taken to a restaurant while starving hungry after being deprived of food for a few days...

1st choice. Filet mignon with Dauphine potatoes: off the menu

2nd choice. Roast Aberdeen beef with sauted vegetables, : Off the menu

3rd Choice. Chicken Nuggets with spicy wedges: Off the menu

Eventually you settle for the beans on toast.

It's no wonder every manager Levy appoints eventually gets worn down and becomes his latest scapegoat
I personally think beans on toast is better than Sissoko. But that's just my opinion.

:harryhmm:
 
Took dog for walk and as none of the techies have stepped up in the meantime (probably at work) I've done a pretty accurate transcript on TS catch up.


SJ says leading question I’m asking, I’ll tell you why, you’ve been at Tottenham, and the accusation is repeatedly and endlessly that DL is front and centre on player acquisition and I always make the case, not because he’s my friend, that that is ridiculous and that he’s at the back end when it comes to the money… can you speak to that in terms of your experience at Tottenham?

DW; Yeah, Daniel did like to play a hands on role in that..erm

JW What do you mean hands on David?

DW I would say that when it came to that final phase he would like to know what was going on.. He would like to have a say.. He would like it to be at a certain price point…

SJ But as far as player selection, based upon talent

DW Yeah he had an opinion and I think sometimes that could cause a conflict of interest

SJ Interesting

DW But when I was the with Poch, I think Poch particularly in the second year cos he done quite well had more of an overall say, so it came down to his decision..

JW So who had the last word?

DW er Poch

JW So there we go.
SJ So kind of half my point. Daniel was a little more involved than I anticipated, not withstanding that, the head coach has the final say

JW I mean at anytime did an owner or chairman like Levy say ‘no do you what, not him’?

DW yeah,..erm I think there were times at Tottenham we had players in the building that maybe we should have potentially signed that would have helped Poch at that time, that didn’t go through, through various aspects, I wasn’t always privy to the final details of that but there were questions being raised that I think sometimes that I think if we would have acquired that player at that certain time, it could have steered Tottenham in a different direction at that time

JW You see that disproves what your belief is (to SJ)

SJ Yeah, it does, it does.. I would suggest that decision, and again it sounds like I’m putting words into a certain space where DL can defend himself and it’s not my job to do so, that would more often than not be a monetary based decision.
Where you say players in the building do you mean players that were already at the football club that needed to be signed on better contracts or are you talking about players being brought in, that someway or another fell out because they couldn’t find an accord?

DW More players to sign

SJ Right

DW and through various reasons they didn’t get over the line.

JW And your position David is you have to go with the flow haven’t you…

DW yeah, very frustrating, lot of work done behind scenes, head of elite 17 to 1st team and because of way poch liked to play, that became a big area of recruitment, so once you’ve done your due diligence , all your work, all your processes, meet with the agents, package it up and presented it, and then obviously it goes over to Rebecca, she was head of football at the time and then to Daniel and obviously Poch was involved in them conversations as well and then it becomes down to them to execute it

JW Ok interesting.
 
Pretty standard stuff I suppose. Chairman is involved in the deals when it comes to the finances. Has an opinion on the quality of the possible signing. Manager has the final word though. Not sure this would be any different from any other club without a DoF.
 
Took dog for walk and as none of the techies have stepped up in the meantime (probably at work) I've done a pretty accurate transcript on TS catch up.


SJ says leading question I’m asking, I’ll tell you why, you’ve been at Tottenham, and the accusation is repeatedly and endlessly that DL is front and centre on player acquisition and I always make the case, not because he’s my friend, that that is ridiculous and that he’s at the back end when it comes to the money… can you speak to that in terms of your experience at Tottenham?

DW; Yeah, Daniel did like to play a hands on role in that..erm

JW What do you mean hands on David?

DW I would say that when it came to that final phase he would like to know what was going on.. He would like to have a say.. He would like it to be at a certain price point…

SJ But as far as player selection, based upon talent

DW Yeah he had an opinion and I think sometimes that could cause a conflict of interest

SJ Interesting

DW But when I was the with Poch, I think Poch particularly in the second year cos he done quite well had more of an overall say, so it came down to his decision..

JW So who had the last word?

DW er Poch

JW So there we go.
SJ So kind of half my point. Daniel was a little more involved than I anticipated, not withstanding that, the head coach has the final say

JW I mean at anytime did an owner or chairman like Levy say ‘no do you what, not him’?

DW yeah,..erm I think there were times at Tottenham we had players in the building that maybe we should have potentially signed that would have helped Poch at that time, that didn’t go through, through various aspects, I wasn’t always privy to the final details of that but there were questions being raised that I think sometimes that I think if we would have acquired that player at that certain time, it could have steered Tottenham in a different direction at that time

JW You see that disproves what your belief is (to SJ)

SJ Yeah, it does, it does.. I would suggest that decision, and again it sounds like I’m putting words into a certain space where DL can defend himself and it’s not my job to do so, that would more often than not be a monetary based decision.
Where you say players in the building do you mean players that were already at the football club that needed to be signed on better contracts or are you talking about players being brought in, that someway or another fell out because they couldn’t find an accord?

DW More players to sign

SJ Right

DW and through various reasons they didn’t get over the line.

JW And your position David is you have to go with the flow haven’t you…

DW yeah, very frustrating, lot of work done behind scenes, head of elite 17 to 1st team and because of way poch liked to play, that became a big area of recruitment, so once you’ve done your due diligence , all your work, all your processes, meet with the agents, package it up and presented it, and then obviously it goes over to Rebecca, she was head of football at the time and then to Daniel and obviously Poch was involved in them conversations as well and then it becomes down to them to execute it

JW Ok interesting.

That's a fantastic insight and thanks for taking so much time to transcribe it for us.

Really shows what conditions Poch, and needless to say those before and after him, had to try and work under

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Thanks again for posting
 
Further onfirmation of exactly what I and many others on here AND numerous ex managers..have been saying for years.

It's like being taken to a restaurant while starving hungry after being deprived of food for a few days...

1st choice. Filet mignon with Dauphine potatoes: off the menu

2nd choice. Roast Aberdeen beef with sauted vegetables, : Off the menu

3rd Choice. Chicken Nuggets with spicy wedges: Off the menu

Eventually you settle for the beans on toast.

It's no wonder every manager Levy appoints eventually gets worn down and becomes his latest scapegoat

But this, I suspect, is also true to an extent. There would have been many occasions where levy simply refused to pay the money. It probably happens everywhere but he does have a reputation.
 
Pretty standard stuff I suppose. Chairman is involved in the deals when it comes to the finances. Has an opinion on the quality of the possible signing. Manager has the final word though. Not sure this would be any different from any other club without a DoF.
“Yeah he had an opinion and I think sometimes that could cause a conflict of interest”

A good chairman should let his experts get on with their job. This is a man who should have zero input other than to give them a figure to work with at the start and sign the deal off once all are on board and the pros are happy.

Do you know what it shows? Lack of trust in the people he’s employing.

The great producer Quincy Jones was once complimented for his talent. He replied that he merely had the talent to surround himself with people more talented than himself. The resulting records were of course always first class.

Employ the talent, have some faith in them and step back, Daniel.
 
Checkout the interview with David Webb on Talksport , who worked at Spurs during the Poch era in a senior coaching role and was privy to transfer dealings. Simon Jordan attempted to use him to back up his own somewhat bias opinion of Levy's innocence (they are "friends" apparently), and Jordan is always defending the little creep.
Anyway Webb confirmed all our worse fears of Levy's control freak meddling saying that Levy did block transfers repeatedly under Poch, players that would have in his own words "sent Tottenham in a different direction". This interfering was not only financial based either but sometimes based on Levy's "personal opinion of a particular player". The latter is especially scary considering Levy knows diddly about football.
There we have irrefutable evidence of what the vast majority of Spurs fans suspected was happening, and a deserved kick up the backside to the handful of Levy apologists on here (you know who you are) who have stated many times that Levy had nothing to do with it and the bad recruitment was all down to Poch, and by default all managers under him (yes 16 odd really!).
There you are from a man on the inside; Levy has cost this club dearly by his ill judged meddling, obscene tightness and over inflated ego. This is what happens when you put a narcissist in a position of power.
 
Yeah I’m all for bashing levy but there’s nothing to see here (although I suspect some will find it).

of course there is something to see.

Levy ‘s judgement is flawed. We all know this apart from the levy fan bois. We’ve seen his fuck ups in real time for 22 odd years. Fuck up after fuck up.

He has clearly said no to seriously good players that would have improved the team. He is a fucking idiot and this confirms his meddling. Not that i or anyone with a brain needed this proving.

stupid bald cunt. Enough is enough.
 
of course there is something to see.

Levy ‘s judgement is flawed. We all know this apart from the levy fan bois. We’ve seen his fuck ups in real time for 22 odd years. Fuck up after fuck up.

He has clearly said no to seriously good players that would have improved the team. He is a fucking idiot and this confirms his meddling. Not that i or anyone with a brain needed this proving.

stupid bald cunt. Enough is enough.

See my next post. He obviously doesn’t learn either which is the worst thing.
 
“Yeah he had an opinion and I think sometimes that could cause a conflict of interest”

A good chairman should let his experts get on with their job. This is a man who should have zero input other than to give them a figure to work with at the start and sign the deal off once all are on board and the pros are happy.

Do you know what it shows? Lack of trust in the people he’s employing.

The great producer Quincy Jones was once complimented for his talent. He replied that he merely had the talent to surround himself with people more talented than himself. The resulting records were of course always first class.

Employ the talent, have some faith in them and step back, Daniel.
I’m with you on most of that. Why employ talented people then tell them what to do? You’re right.

I’d have thought the conflicts of interest thing was questions like:

Are you sure we should make Tanguy the equal top paid player in the club?
Is Son really worth paying twice as much for now than what he was a season ago?
Do we really think this Sanchez lad is proven enough to make such a huge offer?
Are you sure you don’t want another striker as I’m not sure this Kane lad has it in him?

Some of these he’ll be right, others wrong. But as everyone on here seems to agree, the buck stops with him, so he should question everything to ensure the clubs best interests are being served.

Sounds to me from the interview, that he did question decisions, but left the final say to the manager. And that’s also correct.
 
It’s not even his money. If he was an owner like Abromovich or a shiek that puts their own money in you can understand the desire to want to play with your train set. This is all money he borrows in our name or the mugs that go give him.

useless meddling pratt.

Enough is enough.

Yes definitely.

I reread It again and it’s pretty damning. Like I said, the bigger crime is that he absolutely never learns from his mistakes and the fact the meddling has the opposite effect of helping.
 
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