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My point is that is should then move into this one to continue, rather than it being done to death in every thread...by the same people...with the same arguments...and same graphic, ehHonest John
Oh hello. Which graphic. This one? The Forbes one?
You don't like it because everyone can see through your attempt to 'sit on the fence'Too far sunshine! I am no Tory!
For a group of people who claim to be all-wise and all-knowing, you andArchie are doing a poor job at comprehension today.
It is possible for people to not hate ENIC. It doesn't have to then follow that they must love them. It is the reason why a lot of people are fed up of these conversations. There's no debate. You either drink the ENICout coolade fully or you're insulted.
And to answer your question (I have earlier in this thread but god knows you lot love to repeat a point), I understand why other threads touch upon the ENIC debate. My point is that is should then move into this one to continue, rather than it being done to death in every thread...by the same people...with the same arguments...and same graphic, eh
What good have they ever done for the football team?
What manager hasn't been foistered with club signings, hopeful punts and 6th choice players? When have they just got rid of the mediocre -shit players rather than replace with quality? Instead of keeping them because it's cheaper or the asking price for them is too much.
When have they ever gone all in and said we will try our best to get what the manager wants or when the fans have had to put up with shit football, reduced the prices of match tickets rather than charge the most expensive tickets in Europe?
Why is Daniel Levy the highest paid Chairman?
For fucking up virtually every football decision for the past 5 years?
Rafa
has reminded me of a crazy part of Levy manager shenanigans.Kaboul we signed under Jol 2007.
He was given the heave ho by Ramos who didn’t like him - we sold him at a loss to Portsmouth 2008. Their manager Mr Harry Redknapp.
Then we sacked Ramos.
Got in Redknapp and duly bought Kaboul back in January 2010.
Jermaine Defoe we sold to Portsmouth in 2008 under Ramos- to a certain Mr Harry Redknapp.
We can guess what happened next.
In his defence Ramos preferred our record signing Darren Bent who had also been signed under Martin Jol.
Darren Bent being called more useless than Harry Redknapps wife being a high point of that part of our history.
Laughable really.
Just goes to show we were as clueless then as we are now. Maybe more so.
Premier League clubs will discuss today whether there should be a major change to the League’s spending rules, which would introduce a player salary cap linked to the TV revenue of the lowest-earning club.
I wonder who will be the most vociferous...
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I wonder who will be the most vociferous...
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It's absolutely needed. Like FFP before it, though, those at the top will probably twist this to be graduated based on club turnover/finishing position which will only further entrench the top clubs.
I wonder who will be the most vociferous...
But an actual flat cap across the board is 100% needed to fix the sport.
Premier League clubs will discuss today whether there should be a major change to the League’s spending rules, which would introduce a player salary cap linked to the TV revenue of the lowest-earning club.
I wonder who will be the most vociferous...
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I thought I read that the PFA would need to approve any changes as well. That would be my bet of who would be the most vociferous against any potential changes.
Oh I do agree.
Our wages to turnover has hardly ever demonstrated any level of ambition though and Levy will be loving this...which is supposed to make things easier for the smaller clubs, not clubs like Spurs tbh.
He wanted the good for the club. Levy wants cash cow.
Which, ironically, is likely a bad move. Football currently is very wage-gappy. You've got top players making a massive wedge, donkies hoovering up obscene funds, and actual solid contributors being paid, by comparison, relatively low wages. A wage cap structured similar to the NBA would curb the excessive salary of the massive superstars, but it would also likely greatly inflate the median wage in the league.
Because with a cap would come a floor (which is why, unlike what some might believe, Levy may not likely to be the largest proponent of this). So Palace have to spend a similar chunk of money on their squad, even if its not as good as United's.
You've drank too much koolaid. Ashley wanted to line his pockets, period.
Not particularly shocking that businesses want to make more money.
More importantly though a sensible wage cap should offer far more parity across the league, theoretically improve the overall wages across more players, and make the league model far more sustainable in the long-term.
Biggest problem, obviously, is the massive gap in revenue. If you take the average of the bottom 6 its 1/5th the average of the top 6.
Impossible to make a flat cap work without vastly increased revenue sharing. Which, also, is much better for parity and creating a competition that's more enjoyable to watch than City winning 8 out of 10 titles.
But it won't happen and is another reason why anything approved is likely to be tied to turnover and just further cement football's problem.
You say 'fix the sport'. But the sport is probably more popular today than at any point in It's history
It's also worth remembering that if FFP had been implemented in its entirety, the last 2 decades would have probably seen a clean sweep for the likes of Liverpool, Manchester United, and our most bitter rivals Woolwich.
And let's not kid ourselves, Daniel Levy would love nothing more than to be part of a closed shop money league where 'fair play' and 'competition' would hardly be the cornerstones on which it was built.
By "fix" the sport I mean correct course so it's possible to compete without doping financially and without incentivizing clubs to risk going into administration in order to get promoted, stay promoted, etc.
There's a disconnect between your last sentence and the overriding attitude that a closed shop is "bad". If you compare European football to other sports that operate a closed system, there is far, far more parity in a closed system. Many more teams have won the NBA, NHL, AFL, etc. In the 20th century than have won the PL or any other club in Europe.
Open market capitalism, which is the prevailing system in football, devolves into ever increasing monopoly every time. Without artificial constraints, the money will continue to consolidate with fewer and fewer rich clubs who will dominate more and more.
EDIT: Here's a great graphic I found. If you don't think this needs fixing, I don't know what to tell you.
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Keane was sold to Liverpool and bought back in the same way Kaboul and Defoe were too.
Kaboul we signed under Jol 2007.
He was given the heave ho by Ramos who didn’t like him - we sold him at a loss to Portsmouth 2008. Their manager Mr Harry Redknapp.
Then we sacked Ramos.
Got in Redknapp and duly bought Kaboul back in January 2010.
Jermaine Defoe we sold to Portsmouth in 2008 under Ramos- to a certain Mr Harry Redknapp.
We can guess what happened next.
In his defence Ramos preferred our record signing Darren Bent who had also been signed under Martin Jol.
Darren Bent being called more useless than Harry Redknapps wife being a high point of that part of our history.
Laughable really.
Just goes to show we were as clueless then as we are now. Maybe more so.
Yeah Keane wanted to leave. Where I think Ramos just didn’t fancy Kaboul or Defoe.
Bent over Defoe
Woodgate /Dawson over Kaboul.
(Before Woodgate injuries finished him at the top level. Dawson was the 3rd choice).