I guess it’s time to find out if this keyboard warrior actually has any bottle or not. I’m guessing he may not. Or he’ll act like he has and then make a complete cunt of himself.
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I guess it’s time to find out if this keyboard warrior actually has any bottle or not. I’m guessing he may not. Or he’ll act like he has and then make a complete cunt of himself.
But the ambition in the transfer market is greater than Palace’s. As you said all teams have bad performances and the players and Managers must take the blame sometime.
What strategy do you suggest? Forget about concentrating on the top 4 trophy and increasing the clubs earnings and concentrate on the competitions we can win like Europa & Domestic cups?
I do not want Leadership from Levy or ENIC but for them to leave the playing strategy to the Management.
They limit the playing strategy by being tight bastards.
But not tighter than Palace. Therefore that cannot be the cause of today’s defeat.
The goons lost to Bournemouth last week. Utd are losing to everyone.
Every team loses to "lesser, poorer" teams on paper.
The only thing that really matters is trophies and league position at the end of the season.
Not that simple though is it. Any team can lose to any team on an off day. Consistency is down to the squad depth. We have the consistency of a club who has spent the lions share of their money on young talent. So yes, they can be the cause of today's defeat.
Aye, we can point to one offs like Woolwich losing to Bournemouth, but then they’ll go and win 14 on the bounce without seemingly breaking sweat. There’s always going to be that freaky one off result and due to the smaller sides having more money than ever, I can only see these shock results becoming more of a thing and less of a shock. But how do we now bounce back and win a load on the bounce? I’m not sure we can.
I’d love for us to win another trophy. Just not sure how likely that is. We are the fifth or sixth best club in the country. Whilst there’s obviously been Leicester and Wigan in the past twenty years, everything else is won by bigger and better teams.
Does a takeover put us in a better position? Maybe. Worked for City and Chelsea, but it’s been established there was skullduggery afoot. Sort of worked for Liverpool? Maybe Woolwich? Not Newcastle. Not ManU. PSG? Debatable.
I was fully ENIC in when I had in mind the promise of untold wealth being spent on the side after the stadium opened and to be fair, we are spending more. But something still won’t work. What will establish us as a true force on the game? Does it mean the owners selling up? I doubt they will, but will a takeover really put us where we all want to be? Or do we have to eventually accept a number of years of patience with the same set up to try to get where we want?
Yes we will never have that consistency where the defeats like today are rare. What's the answer ?
There are a few reasons I think. But the most obvious to me is we never go the extra mile to spend really big when we need to and/ or we won't pay the wages to attract that player. The goons spent over £100m on Rice , I don't think Levy will ever do that. I mean he never has despite our turnover and profits leaving Woolwich in the dust. They also spent £65m on Havertz which raised a lot of eyebrows to say the least and all the other big clubs pay higher wages.
Also our scouting system in the past has clearly not been good enough.
And our squad depth hasn't been good enough for decades , that is a serious problem that seems to have been overlooked by nearly everyone , doesn't get mentioned enough.
With you on the Rice thing. I think Levy would rather shit in his hands and clap, than spend that much on one player, but we are spending more now. I think our net spend is comparable with them over the past few years. Maybe they pay more in wages, but we surely aren’t talking about paying our present players more? I think Havertz is paid three times what Solanke is and their transfer fees were similar. I’d rather sign Solanke on that basis. So we decide to pay higher wages? Which means signing all new players? For maybe 30%-40% higher fees and salaries than what our present squad is on? Does that do the job?
Scouting maybe getting better these days? Or we are just lucky more often?
Squad depth is an issue, aye. We’ve a capable squad, but no more than that. I’d love to see us with top quality backup in every position, but which teams have that?
And we are still talking problems here, not solutions. Not having a go at you, by the way, just interested as to what anyone thinks, above “ENIC Out” (which may be a solution in part, granted).
Share price?
This Levy reputation of an astute and fine businessman (whether true or not) doesn't automatically cross over into football as we all unfortunately know. Example- The timing of the Mourinho sacking.
Making the call to sack a top line football manager the week of a final and replace him with a novice was a risky (and foolish) move with so much at stake. Whether Levy got rid of Jose for personal reasons, or to save paying him a winning bonus it was a rash decision, made by someone who seems to have never learned from his errors. Spurs didn't have to pay the winning bonus as we ultimately lost, but at what cost?
In any business setting, that sacking (the week of the final followed by the meek loss under Mason) would be enough to get the head man removed from his position of power. The stink of failure was seen throughout the club and beyond. Amateur decision making with no football credibilty or rational sense. The flawed decision of a man that got it so wrong again.
Based on that one example should've been enough to see Levy step down from football related decision making. But of course he continues unchecked. So no surprise that mediocrity follows.
Making the call to sack a top line football manager the week of a final and replace him with a novice was a risky (and foolish) move with so much at stake. Whether Levy got rid of Jose for personal reasons, or to save paying him a winning bonus it was a rash decision, made by someone who seems to have never learned from his errors. Spurs didn't have to pay the winning bonus as we ultimately lost, but at what cost?
In any business setting, that sacking (the week of the final followed by the meek loss under Mason) would be enough to get the head man removed from his position of power. The stink of failure was seen throughout the club and beyond. Amateur decision making with no football credibilty or rational sense. The flawed decision of a man that got it so wrong again.
Based on that one example should've been enough to see Levy step down from football related decision making. But of course he continues unchecked. So no surprise that mediocrity follows.
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You say you don’t know why Jose was sacked, yet say that it was a decision without football credibility or rational sense? But if you don’t know why it happened, you can’t know if it was credible or made sense.
I thought it was pretty well established that our league form was shite, so he’d have to go for that reason, but it’s harder to sack a manager who has just won a trophy.
Also the issue that most of the players wanted him gone. And Sacramento gone too.
And wasn’t Nagelsmann floating about at the time and we wanted a clear run at him?
I don’t think it was any one thing. I’ll die on the hill that it was nothing to do with paying a winning bonus. Levy is responsible for spending hundreds of millions, but paying a few hundred grand to get the trophy monkey off his back is too far? Nah, not having that.
Hasn’t Levy already stepped away from football related decisions? I keep reading he’s got no interest in the game, so how would he even know of the existence of Ange? Surely this appointment came from Munn or Lange?
But let’s suggest we get Levy out. Is he selling his share in the club? Do we want a complete new start? Does it have to be a wealth fund? Or a billionaire benefactor? Or do ENIC stay, but replace Levy? What’s the plan?
We've scored the 3rd most goals in the EPL this season. More than Liverpool, Woolwich. Only City and Chelsea have scored more than us.
Only City, Forest and Liverpool have conceded less goals than us.
So, our defense is good. Our attack is good......But our results are bad. This dismal Palace performance aside, we are not too far off hitting our stride. Players need to step up and take action.
Only City, Forest and Liverpool have conceded less goals than us.
So, our defense is good. Our attack is good......But our results are bad. This dismal Palace performance aside, we are not too far off hitting our stride. Players need to step up and take action.
So you think Levy sacking a seasoned winner (Mourinho) the week of a cup final and putting Mason in charge at that point was acceptable decision making? Surely Spurs football success comes before the ego of Daniel Levy.
All your other points are seperate issues, not disagreeing with some of them, but the cup final was sacrificed by Levy. That in itself should have been enough for him to step aside out of incompetency.
He did exactly the same with George Graham a week before an FA Cup semi final with Woolwich so he has history. I mean i couldnt stand Graham like i couldnt stand Mourinho but they both had much more chance in a one off against a much better side than their replacements.
Many of us were calling for Mourinho’s sacking weeks earlier. The way the team were playing winning was unlikely and whilst the timing of the sacking was bad, it was justified.
Levy has hired and fired more managers than than any other chairman in the history of the Premier League.......Why do you think they all ultimately fail when they work for him. Despite us being one of the wealthiest clubs on the planet.
Do you not think that maybe the problem is Levy himself?