So....your saying the answer to all of this is......some kind of blood sacrifice? Hmm and
Shadydan
seems to be missing! Man I'm calling the cops!!!! Nah fuck it where are the matches!
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Shadydan
seems to be missing! Man I'm calling the cops!!!! Nah fuck it where are the matches!
Yeah, I voted to sin bin you. Doubt I’m the only one after this post about helicopter crashes.
Disgraceful post.
You probably abuse players online for missing penalties and the like.
You need help - saying this over a game of sport is not normal mate. Seriously.
Basically exactly how I feel. Except for paragraphs 2 to 6.
Probably? You're not sure?Poor1882 - clearly a passionate and real fan who is sick of seeing the club being abused from the top.
Probably went a bit far. Can’t blame him as what is being done to the club really is criminal. Hope it isn’t for long.
Looking forward to the we could have had Mohammed Al Fayed as an owner defence being trotted out soon .
You might want to go on a refresher course at Police AcademyPoor
Probably went a bit far. Can’t blame him as what is being done to the club really is criminal. Hope it isn’t for long.
‘Oh man it would’ve been handy if x person died’ in a forum post isn’t illegal. He did then clarify he didn’t wish death on him.
Obviously just frustrated. I am sure billionaire Daniel Levy will survive the ill thoughts. This forum has a weird line for morality as I saw far worse in off topic etc that people walked away from.
I get some being uninterested in the ‘in or out’ debate. But to actively support them & spend most days defending them is bloody crazy. Of all the people to pick from in life to defend & die on a hill for. They pick …..
matt law sticking the boot in on levy.
It was at the end of September that Daniel Levy was asked to list his top three achievements as Tottenham Hotspurchairman and replied with reaching the Champions League final, opening the stadium and employing some good players.
No mention of the 2008 Carling Cup success, the only trophy Tottenham have won since Levy has been at the club, which supporters who are desperate for silverware were quick to pick up on.
Levy was talking at a fans’ forum and was on stage with head coach Ange Postecoglou and club captain Son Heung-min, who apologised to fans after Sunday’s miserable defeat by Ipswich Town.
Son – one of the best Premier League players of his era – will have spent a decade at Tottenham next year, but he still has not got a single winners’ medal for all his years of near exemplary service.
That could still change this season, with Tottenham, despite their defeat by Galatasaray, looking good in the Europa League and still in the Carabao Cup – what used to be the old Carling Cup – after knocking out Manchester City.
One can only assume that a Carabao Cup success would not be enough to break into Levy’s top three. A Europa League might be, given it earns qualification to the Champions League, but winning has not appeared to be the be-all and end-all at Tottenham for well over 20 years now.
It should be a source of profound embarrassment to Levy that for all the excellent players he has employed – Harry Kane and Gareth Bale were the two he picked out – Tottenham have not won more than a solitary League Cup under his watch.
Which brings us nicely to watches of the timepiece variety and the revelation by Hugo Lloris that the Tottenham squad who reached the final of the 2018-19 Champions League, of which Son was a member, were given watches with the word “finalist” engraved into the back of them.
That was the moment Lloris claims in his autobiography to have known that Levy and Tottenham were not in it for the winning, and after a defeat by Ipswich, fans are once again playing the club’s favourite game of “whose fault is it anyway?”
Postecoglou defended Tottenham over the Lloris comments, claiming that the “broader view” was that it “could have been a very successful period for the club”.
Maybe it would have been if the club had not become the first in history not to sign a single player in the summer before a Champions League final appearance. Or if Levy had backed Mauricio Pochettino, rather than sacking him just six months after it.
Postecoglou accepted responsibility for Tottenham’s inconsistency after the Ipswich defeat and it was the head coach who appeared to be on the end of some choice words from an angry fan as he headed down the tunnel.
He was not asked how he would define “successful”. It would be interesting to hear if Levy’s interpretation of the word is different to that of Postecoglou, who recently responded to the suggestion “some people” see a top-four finish as being as good as a trophy with: “But there isn’t a trophy.”
Maybe somebody needs to tell Levy that his world-class stadium is not a trophy, just as the striking mural of Kane on the way into it from White Hart Lane train station is not, either. And, apart from the watches he handed out, there is no silverware for reaching a final.
Much has been made – largely by himself – of Postecoglou’s record of winning trophies in his second seasons at clubs, but is he going to be another manager who finds that Tottenham is the exception to the rule? José Mourinho won trophies before and after his Tottenham experience, while Antonio Conte is top of the Serie A table with Napoli, the first club he has worked at since leaving Levy behind.
Supporters have an entire international break in which to go back and forth over the familiar Tottenham blame game. But the fact remains there has only been one constant during the 20-plus years in which Tottenham have managed to win a single trophy that does not even figure in the chairman’s top three.
Tottenham’s big problem: Daniel Levy does not care about winning
[COLOR=rgba(27, 27, 27, 0.65)]Someone may need to remind the chairman that his world-class stadium is not a trophy and there is no silverware for just reaching a final[/COLOR]
It was at the end of September that Daniel Levy was asked to list his top three achievements as Tottenham Hotspurchairman and replied with reaching the Champions League final, opening the stadium and employing some good players.
No mention of the 2008 Carling Cup success, the only trophy Tottenham have won since Levy has been at the club, which supporters who are desperate for silverware were quick to pick up on.
Levy was talking at a fans’ forum and was on stage with head coach Ange Postecoglou and club captain Son Heung-min, who apologised to fans after Sunday’s miserable defeat by Ipswich Town.
Son – one of the best Premier League players of his era – will have spent a decade at Tottenham next year, but he still has not got a single winners’ medal for all his years of near exemplary service.
That could still change this season, with Tottenham, despite their defeat by Galatasaray, looking good in the Europa League and still in the Carabao Cup – what used to be the old Carling Cup – after knocking out Manchester City.
One can only assume that a Carabao Cup success would not be enough to break into Levy’s top three. A Europa League might be, given it earns qualification to the Champions League, but winning has not appeared to be the be-all and end-all at Tottenham for well over 20 years now.
It should be a source of profound embarrassment to Levy that for all the excellent players he has employed – Harry Kane and Gareth Bale were the two he picked out – Tottenham have not won more than a solitary League Cup under his watch.
Which brings us nicely to watches of the timepiece variety and the revelation by Hugo Lloris that the Tottenham squad who reached the final of the 2018-19 Champions League, of which Son was a member, were given watches with the word “finalist” engraved into the back of them.
That was the moment Lloris claims in his autobiography to have known that Levy and Tottenham were not in it for the winning, and after a defeat by Ipswich, fans are once again playing the club’s favourite game of “whose fault is it anyway?”
Postecoglou defended Tottenham over the Lloris comments, claiming that the “broader view” was that it “could have been a very successful period for the club”.
Maybe it would have been if the club had not become the first in history not to sign a single player in the summer before a Champions League final appearance. Or if Levy had backed Mauricio Pochettino, rather than sacking him just six months after it.
Postecoglou accepted responsibility for Tottenham’s inconsistency after the Ipswich defeat and it was the head coach who appeared to be on the end of some choice words from an angry fan as he headed down the tunnel.
No trophy for top-four finish
Asked at the same fans’ forum about how he handles criticism, Levy claimed: “I have a very thick skin and I just ignore it. (It) makes me want to be more successful.”He was not asked how he would define “successful”. It would be interesting to hear if Levy’s interpretation of the word is different to that of Postecoglou, who recently responded to the suggestion “some people” see a top-four finish as being as good as a trophy with: “But there isn’t a trophy.”
Maybe somebody needs to tell Levy that his world-class stadium is not a trophy, just as the striking mural of Kane on the way into it from White Hart Lane train station is not, either. And, apart from the watches he handed out, there is no silverware for reaching a final.
Much has been made – largely by himself – of Postecoglou’s record of winning trophies in his second seasons at clubs, but is he going to be another manager who finds that Tottenham is the exception to the rule? José Mourinho won trophies before and after his Tottenham experience, while Antonio Conte is top of the Serie A table with Napoli, the first club he has worked at since leaving Levy behind.
Supporters have an entire international break in which to go back and forth over the familiar Tottenham blame game. But the fact remains there has only been one constant during the 20-plus years in which Tottenham have managed to win a single trophy that does not even figure in the chairman’s top three.
I walked away from the politics thread before it got closed , I have had no desire to visit the new thread .
It’s why I’m Levy Out , before I get accused of being off topic
Carricks words
“ At Tottenham we might have had a good cup run but we weren't actually thinking 'we can win this'. It was about how far we could go or 'could we get into the Champions League?'”
That was 18 years ago! Nothing has changed & we are still stuck with levy & ENIC.
I walked away from the politics thread before it got closed , I have had no desire to visit the new thread .
It’s why I’m Levy Out , before I get accused of being off topic
Probably sensible.
People can say dim tim all they like but my god was this spot on about the club. On here he’d be ripped apart for the honesty.
‘Everyone at the club talks about fourth’ - WE HAVENT PROGRESSED A BIT.
The peak Poch days have long looked like a blip. He somehow managed to briefly cut through the malaise that filters down from the top, and for that I'll be forever grateful.
Obviously we don't operate in isolation, but other than perhaps some slightly better youth scouting, Spurs are still signing the same level of player as 10+ years ago, if not worse in fact.
E.g. 2012: Dembele, Vertonghen, Lloris, Dempsey, Sigurdssen is clearly much better than summer 2024 in terms of immediate impact.
I think about this interview more than is healthy.
