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The Absolute GOAT said:
OH WHY CAN'T THIS BALD FRAUD CUNT JUST FUCK OFF.

FUCK SAKE
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Herpes will be cured before he goes , at least I bloody hope so .



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Deuterz said:
"Local lads" jesus christ mate its hardly a fucking passion project, they've put less of their own money in to the club than owners who have absolutely no attachment or link to their clubs. It's purely a business project for them and they've demonstrated this time and time again.

Not sure what the difference is between soulless corporate suit from down the road vs soulless corporate suit from America, frankly. Middle Eastern and American money already funds the club to some degree, we'd just be getting it directly instead of indirectly.

I promise you that Lewis, who right now is probably sat in the Bahamas doing some dodgy trade deal with the Saudis, gives just as much of a fuck about his connection to Spurs as Boehly does Chelsea. The cunt doesn't care about locality, he doesn't even want to do the bare minimum for his countrymen and pay his tax.
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An important dimension of this is that our club has been self-sufficient. All of our growth has been achieved under our own steam and through our own ingenuity and good management which is exactly how it should be.

Abramovic, Mansour and the Saudis have invested in PL teams as political capital and to launder tbeir reparations. It’s a marketing exercise which has distorted the playing field in a way which damages sporting competition.

This hollowing out of the game and the increasing inequality has not been done for sporting reasons. It's been done to entrench the power and wealth of some already fabulously rich and powerful billionaires. If your solution to oligarchy is more oligarchy then you will always be disappointed.

Football is like democracy - it needs people more concerned with the game than winning to sustain it.
 
LeParisien said:
An important dimension of this is that our club has been self-sufficient. All of our growth has been achieved under our own steam and through our own ingenuity and good management which is exactly how it should be.

Abramovic, Mansour and the Saudis have invested in PL teams as political capital and to launder tbeir reparations. It’s a marketing exercise which has distorted the playing field in a way which damages sporting competition.

This hollowing out of the game and the increasing inequality has not been done for sporting reasons. It's been done to entrench the power and wealth of some already fabulously rich and powerful billionaires. If your solution to oligarchy is more oligarchy then you will always be disappointed.

Football is like democracy - it needs people more concerned with the game than winning to sustain it.
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Mate, we are not the good guys. I'm not talking about selling out to the Saudis but Liverpool have American owners who have as much attachment and give just as much of a fuck about the club as ours. I.e they don't care at all, Lewis has no love for Tottenham. The "local lads" shite was just nonsense and you know it.

There are a small handful of genuinely admirable owners in the football pyramid, ours aren't some of them. They aren't remotely concerned with "the game" or "doing it the right way" - they just want profit. We are an example of undiluted capitalism, not something romantic or to be aspired to. As long as his net worth rises, Lewis is happy. You think HE cares about where wealth comes from??
 
Deuterz said:
Mate, we are not the good guys. I'm not talking about selling out to the Saudis but Liverpool have American owners who have as much attachment and give just as much of a fuck about the club as ours. I.e they don't care at all, Lewis has no love for Tottenham. The "local lads" shite was just nonsense and you know it.

There are a small handful of genuinely admirable owners in the football pyramid, ours aren't some of them. They aren't remotely concerned with "the game" or "doing it the right way" - they just want profit. We are an example of undiluted capitalism, not something romantic or to be aspired to. As long as his net worth rises, Lewis is happy. You think HE cares about where wealth comes from??
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Maybe my argument wasn’t clear enough.

Sporting considerations should be the main determinant of sporting rules and sporting outcomes.

Clubs should have to spend within their means. It has been a complete mismanagement of the game to allow owners to pump money into their clubs for short term gain.

That has not increased competition in sport. It has reduced competition in sport. Sport thrives on competition.

Every club should have to be self-sufficient.
 
LeParisien said:
Maybe my argument wasn’t clear enough.

Sporting considerations should be the main determinant of sporting rules and sporting outcomes.

Clubs should have to spend within their means. It has been a complete mismanagement of the game to allow owners to pump money into their clubs for short term gain.

That has not increased competition in sport. It has reduced competition in sport. Sport thrives on competition.

Every club should have to be self-sufficient.
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Maybe. But we both know Lewis hasn't not put money in because of his belief in the integrity of sport, he's not put money in because he views Spurs as a source of profit. Accidentally doing something virtuous because you want to make loadsa' money is hardly the "local lads running the show" dream your initial post conveyed.

As for reducing competition, questionable. Competition wasn't exactly stunning pre oil clubs (United, anyone?) because dynastic clubs had an enormous financial advantage and VERY rarely did any club challenge that. I'm not sure inherited wealth is any better or more virtuous than new money, personally.

Leagues where there is very little foreign investment (Bundesliga) hardly epitomise competition, the league is entirely dominated by the club(s) who happened to be very successful at the right time once and now have a financial stranglehold over the competition. They very occasionally miss out on a league title and then sweep away the best talent in the league anyway.
 
LeParisien said:
Maybe my argument wasn’t clear enough.

Sporting considerations should be the main determinant of sporting rules and sporting outcomes.

Clubs should have to spend within their means. It has been a complete mismanagement of the game to allow owners to pump money into their clubs for short term gain.

That has not increased competition in sport. It has reduced competition in sport. Sport thrives on competition.

Every club should have to be self-sufficient.
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Like tax loopholes there will always be ways around it , big clubs will always do what they want & the authorities are too scared to punish them .

It should be as you say but it’ll never happen
 
Deuterz said:
Maybe. But we both know Lewis hasn't not put money in because of his belief in the integrity of sport, he's not put money in because he views Spurs as a source of profit. Accidentally doing something virtuous because you want to make loadsa' money is hardly the "local lads running the show" dream your initial post conveyed.

As for reducing competition, questionable. Competition wasn't exactly stunning pre oil clubs (United, anyone?) because dynastic clubs had an enormous financial advantage and VERY rarely did any club challenge that. I'm not sure inherited wealth is any better or more virtuous than new money, personally.

Leagues where there is very little foreign investment (Bundesliga) hardly epitomise competition, the league is entirely dominated by the club(s) who happened to be very successful at the right time once and now have a financial stranglehold over the competition. They very occasionally miss out on a league title and then sweep away the best talent in the league anyway.
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You have no idea what Lewis’ motivations are. They’re completely opaque.

He’s made money in his investment but a football club is not an obvious place for a billionaire to make money. Billionaires rarely invest in football clubs.

What we do know is that our football club has been well run and it’s been run in the right way, as football clubs should be. You want to attribute this to an « accident ». I think it’s something that’s not worth giving up to a force that has tended to harm the game.

Manchester United we’re strong financially but they also benefited from other normal forces:
- A legendary manager that a host of other clubs could have signed
- The luck of a golden generation coming through the academy at the right time and the skill of investing in that academy
- Patience in not sacking their manager despite a few years of poor results (Fergie was very close to the sack).
Those are exactly the sorts of forces that should drive the game. Not Abramovich coming in and blowing up the market.

Notice too how Manchester United’s domestic dominance was not matched in Europe where they were relative underachievers.

Woolwich were similar. Wenger came in with improved professionalism, diet, and scouting and they improved. Those are all good sporting factors. Anyone could have signed Wenger from Grumpus 8.
 
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