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It’s the faux outrage that gets me.

As I said, responded to posts I’d made following on from the original, but the original then made him clutch his pearls half a day later? Guys an actor and not a very good one. He’ll get some likes though, so his day will be fulfilled.
 
MemphisWill said:
You missed a period in there, for the record.

His Forbes net worth is $6.9B. He owns 70.12% of ENIC who own 86.58% of Spurs, so Lewis owns 60.7% of Spurs.

Spurs are valued by Forbes at $3.2B. Lewis' stake in Spurs is worth $1.94B. This represents 28% of his net worth. This share has decreased a good bit since the last time I ran these figures when it was well over 30%.

Still, you will not find another majority shareholders of a Top 6 club whose net worth is so largely tied up in their football club. I can't think of another owner I've run those numbers for (previous post on this topic gave results for all top 6 clubs and Villa I believe), and I don't recall one having more than 10% of their net worth tributary to their stake in the football club.

So, again, Lewis is very rich. Yes. But they still don't have access to the capital that our competitors do, nor the ability to absorb the same losses our competitors can. They can do more, absolutely, but its still a mischaracterization to attest that it's anything like equal footing. ENIC is also very illiquid, and their biggest asset, Tottenham Hotspur FC, is already heavily leveraged with stadium construction debt (at great interest rates - don't bring up any bollocks, the stadium is a revenue positive to the club even with the debt).
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More evidence that the game really is passing them by. Not that we really needed it.
 
John Thomas said:
Oh wow! Just......WOW!

What an absolutely ridiculous comparison.

The gooner anthem booming around our stadium as the whole place is lit up in red .......being likened to the national anthems before an international match!!!!!

I'm still finding hard to rationalise I actually read this post on a Spurs forum :thumbdown:
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Like I said, club's fucked.

Any such comment (with people also agreeing to it) would have been unthinkable years ago.

It's gone, mate.
 
B-0-Sspurs said:
What a depressing read. So glad though that ENIC confirmed at the time that we could not stay at the old white hart lane as we would get left behind by other clubs…..

The new stadium will allow us to compete with the other top clubs.

For so called business people they have royally fudged our club
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If we're not going to try to fucking advance as a club, then I'd give anything to have our old ground back.

Proper atmosphere, proper fans. Away fans did NOT like coming to WHL.
 
AberdeenYid said:
Question for those unhappy with that song being played at our stadium (even though it had nothing to do with football and the place was probably full of non Spurs fans) - when the Euros come round and Germany play France at the stadium, will you have a similar problem hearing the national anthems being played and the place bedecked in their national flags?

I couldn’t give a shite about either scenario, just wondering where the line is drawn.
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I'm going to qualify the rest of what I'm about to say with the fact I'm not as bothered about the boxing incident as others...

But a gooner came into our house and as a deliberate act of shithousery, took a proverbial dump on our priceless rug.

The stadium being used for the Euro's and any generic country playing their national anthem, which is basically mandatory is absolutely irrelevant.
If they show up in Woolwich shirts, stick 2 fingers up to all 4 corners of the ground and play north london is red, then we'll chat.
 
The Absolute GOAT said:
If we're not going to try to fucking advance as a club, then I'd give anything to have our old ground back.

Proper atmosphere, proper fans. Away fans did NOT like coming to WHL.
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That ground wasn't always that loud though, there were times under previous managers where the atmosphere was terrible.

I think people always say this because they're holding onto memories of the final season where we went unbeaten, the very likelihood is that if we were at that ground this season we'd still be hearing the same atmosphere because the team wouldn't be doing well therefore there's no connection with the fans.
 
Shadydan said:
That ground wasn't always that loud though, there were times under previous managers where the atmosphere was terrible.

I think people always say this because they're holding onto memories of the final season where we went unbeaten, the very likelihood is that if we were at that ground this season we'd still be hearing the same atmosphere because the team wouldn't be doing well therefore there's no connection with the fans.
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Of course there were days when the atmosphere sucked. That would apply to pretty much any team, anywhere.

But it was generally far more intimidating than the new ground and I stand by that view.
 
Matt1882 said:
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I'm going to qualify the rest of what I'm about to say with the fact I'm not as bothered about the boxing incident as others...

But a gooner came into our house and as a deliberate act of shithousery, took a proverbial dump on our priceless rug.

The stadium being used for the Euro's and any generic country playing their national anthem, which is basically mandatory is absolutely irrelevant.
If they show up in Woolwich shirts, stick 2 fingers up to all 4 corners of the ground and play north london is red, then we'll chat.
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I appreciate you actually answering my question. For what it’s worth, I agree that the anthem thing is no issue, was just looking to garner opinions on where lines are drawn.

Yes, a Gooner came in and acted the cunt. Wouldn’t expect anything less. Then he got battered. Wouldn’t expect anything less.

But I do think if this is the kind of thing that vexes people, they should give their heads a shake and actually concentrate on the stuff that’s important. This really shouldn’t be.
 
The Absolute GOAT said:
If we're not going to try to fucking advance as a club, then I'd give anything to have our old ground back.

Proper atmosphere, proper fans. Away fans did NOT like coming to WHL.
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This feels like rose-tinted glasses to me - the atmosphere was great in that last season, especially,y but it was just as shite as it is now when we were average or not doing as well as expected.

You think if we were having the season we were now back in old whl the atmosphere would be good? and you think if we were having the season we did during our last season at old whl the atmosphere would be shite now?
 
dudu said:
This feels like rose-tinted glasses to me - the atmosphere was great in that last season, especially,y but it was just as shite as it is now when we were average or not doing as well as expected.

You think if we were having the season we were now back in old whl the atmosphere would be good? and you think if we were having the season we did during our last season at old whl the atmosphere would be shite now?
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Already replied to Shady.

I stand by my post.
 
dudu said:
I don't think our fans, when the chips were down against sides coming to give us a game, were that intimidating when they needed to be.

Maybe you remember it differently. I remember going and sitting in relative silence when we were getting our asses handed to us very, very often.
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It's alright. Time has probably fudged your memory :)
 
The Absolute GOAT said:
Of course there were days when the atmosphere sucked. That would apply to pretty much any team, anywhere.

But it was generally far more intimidating than the new ground and I stand by that view.
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It's equal, when we played Ars under Conte and smashed them 3-0, it was the same as when we beat Inter 3-1.

Doesn't come down to stadium, it comes down to fan connection and general vibe about the club...it just so happens we've been pretty shit since the stadium has been opened and the majority of time the ambience has been poor as a result.
 
Shadydan said:
It's equal, when we played Ars under Conte and smashed them 3-0, it was the same as when we beat Inter 3-1.

Doesn't come down to stadium, it comes down to fan connection and general vibe about the club...it just so happens we've been pretty shit since the stadium has been opened and the majority of time the ambience has been poor as a result.
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That's a lot of words when you could've just said 'you're right, goaty. My bad'.

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