Yup, pretty much what I've been saying...
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Yup, pretty much what I've been saying...
Why do people have to make up toxic shit. Just go and support another club if you hate it that much
Lots of this going on in this thread. Our owners suck, stop defending them.
Lots of this going on in this thread. Our owners suck, stop defending them.
If anything people are defending anti bullshit and pushing back against the OTT hysterical crap that gets written in here.
As ever - this is the point. It's rare that actual factual things are being used in the criticism.
If our owners and chairman genuinely are awful, people shouldn't need to invent stuff to be critical of
Spurs fans feel the need to play their position on social media, we get punched down on by rival fans and the media so much that the fanbase has low self esteem therefore they project their insecurities back onto the club so everything gets twisted and painted into a negative and thus if the inevitable was to happen they are already in a position to accept fate.
No-one does self loathing and he need to constantly wallow in self pity like our fans, it's probably why you'll get called a 'happy clapper' if you dare to be slightly positive
It feels like a certain section of our fanbase – albeit a loud minority – are determined to be outraged at everything the club does. There's this constant negativity, almost like they're performing for an audience, treating every decision with maximum cynicism and acting like entitled critics of every move Spurs make.
What’s worse is some of them seem to embrace the "Spursy" label like it's a badge of honour — wearing it around their neck like some sort of war medal. It’s as if they've given up believing in the club entirely. Instead of supporting the team, they’d rather mock it or wallow in this self-inflicted misery. It's honestly baffling how some fans seem more committed to being miserable than hopeful.
These guys know they are, it's just if they actually say they get it then they have very little else to talk about, so they pretend they don't understand and just accuse people of being levy lovers and openly fantasise about other posters performing sexual acts on the great bald one.
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The thing is they don't like it when people push back, they call it 'defending' the board - they want this place to be an echo chamber but as far as I recall this has always been a neutral thread and it will always be one.
They ought to start their own 'I hate ENIC' or 'Levy is a bald cunt' thread or something like that if that's the case but I absolutely guarantee you they won't because they'd have no-one to troll or bait and eventually get tired of their own voices, they'll all end up running back in here.
I'm with Dan here. The stadium HAS been a game changer. It's just that we don't spend wisely.
I saw a list(you can probably google it) about half-a-year ago, that we were 3rd in europe(if not world) in transfer fees paid the last 3 seasons.
Thats pretty telling. It says we spend big on transfer fees, and it says we really suck at it.
We tend to spend a lot on a lot of mediocre players, and nothing at all on a few game changers.
And this is NOT a defending Levy post!
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I think mostly just like posting on the forum and wouldn't have much else to say if it wasn't about Levy.
I'm trying to picture it in another forum, like an Ipswich one.
"We're shit, we're skint, and we're going to get relegated. I don't know why anyone accepts this colossal shitfest"
Or even Brentford
"Every time we get a good player Benham will just sell them, so what's the point. Still paying championship wages. Lose our best manager in decades and replace him on the cheap"
It's amazing how far Man Utd have fallen from what they were, and their fans aren't even a patch on how much negativity threads like this have generated for decades. There are people supporting the club as adults under 24 now who have never known a lower-table spurs, so to an extent I can understand why they could take it for granted, but for anyone who was around and supporting in the 90s at least... is that somehow seen as better? Or the 80s? I mean, has the club ever had what could be considered "good" ownership before 2001? Seems like people are unhappy because they are comparing us to unobtanium like an Abramovich, Qatar, or Abu Dhabi, who have ulterior motives.
When we were told the stadium was a game changer, I believed it. I thought it meant huge revenues and more money than ever being spent on the team.
Whilst that’s true to an extent, it’s certainly not lived up to the billing in my head at the time.
Got me thinking about other clubs that had any success in the years following a stadium move. Are there any? That lot along the road are just getting their shit together now and their hovel has been open almost 20 years. Did I underestimate how tough moving to a new stadium would be? Did Levy? Did we all?
Whilst that’s true to an extent, it’s certainly not lived up to the billing in my head at the time.
Got me thinking about other clubs that had any success in the years following a stadium move. Are there any? That lot along the road are just getting their shit together now and their hovel has been open almost 20 years. Did I underestimate how tough moving to a new stadium would be? Did Levy? Did we all?
Well, we did have a global economic issue that fucked a lot that stuff up. About typical that it would coincide, let's be honest.
Here's the difference in the transfer spending before and after the new stadium, based on transfermarkt.
14/15 until 19/20 (6 seasons inclusive) we had the 17th highest net spend. Per season is approx €80m of which €17m net
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20/21 to 24/25 (5 seasons inclusive) we have 3rd highest net spend Per season is approx €170m of which €116m net.
So the net spend has gone up 10x per season. From a squad point of view, we're outspending Man City, Liverpool, Woolwich, and the PIF.
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I thing Levy has taken us as far as he can & would be delighted if he sold up, however, I'm getting the right hump with the "supposed to be Spurs fans" cunts that are trying to belittle our Europa Cup win just a fucking month ago. Youse sound like those gutted little cunts up the road, who for 17 years (alongside most other football fans) have been giving it to us , "Spursy,where's your trophy's etc". I took my 3 teenagers to the parade, it was real & ABSOLUTELY meant something to the true/ real/ proper fans of this beautiful Club. You cunts trying to make out it's fuck all are either trolls, gooners or just complete and utter wankstains in my very honest opinion,not worth it.
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According to the Chairman's statement which appeared at the bottom of the club's Financial Results Year Ended 30th June 2024 publication from March this year; the club has spent £700m on player acquisitions since the new stadium was opened.
IMO that money has been spent so poorly that surely it amounts to incompetence, and it's even worse when Ndombele and Aurier are added but they arrived sometime before the new stadium was open (I think, without checking) so that's another £85m down the swanny.
I know it's not likely that every signing is going to work out well for a football team, some you win, some you lose, I'm struggling to think which are the one's the club won. So far it's Van de ven, possibly Perisic. some of the other players I would describe as good on their day but inconsistent, so not really all that good altogether. Certainly no game changers in attack.
I don't see why it's so unpopular with some posters on the forum to have this sort of stuff discussed?
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The club has failed the players IMO, we sign good players but there's been no sign of coaching to improve them over the past few years since funnily enough Poch left, I made a long detailed post about this in another thread:
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All this talk about our transfers and recruitment got me thinking. :gallashmm: There's been continued debates about our players and our recruitment over the years, it seems like the most common consensus is that our recruitment have been average to poor and our players just aren't good enough...
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Our recruitment wouldn't look half as bad if we actually stuck to a plan.
Well, we did have a global economic issue that fucked a lot that stuff up. About typical that it would coincide, let's be honest.
Here's the difference in the transfer spending before and after the new stadium, based on transfermarkt.
14/15 until 19/20 (6 seasons inclusive) we had the 17th highest net spend. Per season is approx €80m of which €17m net
Should be able to click to enlarge
20/21 to 24/25 (5 seasons inclusive) we have 3rd highest net spend Per season is approx €170m of which €116m net.
So the net spend has gone up 10x per season. From a squad point of view, we're outspending Man City, Liverpool, Woolwich, and the PIF.
Pretty stark change to be fair.
Don’t think discussing is unpopular. Just think you may find it to not be great when people disagree with you.
As long as posters go into any discussion in good faith, don’t tell outright lies, accept they may get called out if they are presenting opinion as fact and most importantly, accept they are unlikely to change anyone’s mind on any subject, discussion is welcomed, or we wouldn’t be here.
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Makes it all the more incredible that we most recently finished in 17th place.
In French there's a phrase that means "When you're a fool, even gold turns to lead", it's apt for us.