The same reason we can't sell any players..... overvaluation by our board
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The same reason we can't sell any players..... overvaluation by our board
The evidence is becoming overwhelming that they don’t want to compete with the top four. Too expensive and too difficult. They can maintain their valuation of the club finishing between 5th and 8th, which now seems the aim. So why would they try harder? They only care about the money and us being a CL club doesn’t bring that much more to the valuation when compared to the effort in creating that increase. If anything investing in the team is more expensive than the uplift in value.
to be fair to us, i don't think we do for the most part. you can only look at the comments after he made his we want to win the league comment.
majority of spurs fans at least on here know he's a snake oil salesman
People did whinge about playing badly and losing , can remember plenty of the times the team being booed off and the crowd singing that they were not fit to wear the shirt. You are changing history slightly to complain about current Spurs fans. for some reason. Some of the performances over the last few years would have created a lot more of a toxic environment in the 80s and 90s than what we currently have.
I agree the Premier league has taken the soul out of football and football is now a business across the board, not just Spurs. Which I can deal with if we had owners who had the football acumen if not the money to make us more successful but we don't.
With regards to the football acumen we have wasted millions on bad purchases and paying managers off, there is always a new dawn around the corner which leads to nothing. The whole club (football) is a mess from having to give Dougherty away, sacking all the medical team, the current situation with not enough club trained players and I could go on. Forget the number of failed transfers which may or may not be the clubs fault, a lot of our issues are just pure incompetence. After 25 odd years you would have thought that the club could have sorted itself out, but it hasn't.
The latest new shiny toy in Vinai , not Frank.
Will Vinai make a difference to how we operate? Who knows , is he even relevant. I can remember having to wait for the arrival of Scott Munn another glorious Levy appointment, sacked after 2 years.
As for Frank he is just the latest in a long line of managers of which the majority have failed. He maybe a success who knows but history tell us the odds are against him.
We should ponder why the long list of managers have failed , even our last manager who won us silverware was deemed a failure and sacked.
We are a great business but an amateur football club.
I am venting, sorry, and not all has anything to do with your post
It's all good, bro - but perspective - come on.
Amateur?
95% of football fans in the country would give their left nut to have experienced a Europa League trophy, CL final, more seasons in Europe than not over the last 20 years. I promise you, most if not all Woolwich fans would too.... and they have finished 2nd 3 years on the trot.
We have been in a rut for a few years now - it happens to every single club on the planet - but let's not rewrite our recent history either.
This sport, in fact, any sport, is cyclical, and if you are in it to only ever see your team play well and win then you might as well choose a different team to support every year and just follow the best.
Could we be run better? Absolutely. Could we win more trophies - sure, have the last few seasons been a struggle compared to most of the 2010's - yup.
But I don't buy this woe is me stuff, mate.
Levy and Donna off to watch Coldplay in Korea this weekend
Do you pay for a season ticket?
I did a while ago.
Why, what is your point?
Buying a season ticket doesn't guarantee you anything at all on the pitch. It does to an experience inside the facilities, which, you are well aware of if you buy it.
But on the pitch - how can it?
A couple of seasons outside the top 5 and playing europe in 20 odd years is still not as bad as any of you guys make out.
It's still better than 95% of any other club in the country.
It doesnt mean you can't complain or want better - but it should also come with some kind of perspective.
Is Cullen genuinely on the tour ?
I think it’s easier to accept our continued sloppiness if you don’t invest time, effort and cost to go every week. We aren’t doing terribly, and the club ownership have been great commercially but the ticket prices stand out and we are well below peers in terms of football success and execution of a plan. It’s not getting any better, no matter what Levy tries to do
100% of the 95% pay a lot less than we do, we deserve better
Wow, this really demonstrates the ENIC story off the pitch versus on the pitch
1994-95: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 27
1995-96: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 21
1996-97: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 29
1997-98: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 35.5%, Points off Title - 34
1998-99: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 38.4%, Points off Title - 32
1999-00: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 41.4%, Points off Title - 38
2000-01: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 36.8%, Points off Title - 31
2001-02: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 43.9%, Points off Title - 37
2002-03: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 38.0%, Points off Title - 33
2003-04: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 38.6%, Points off Title - 45
2004-05: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 42.4%, Points off Title - 43
2005-06: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 44.2%, Points off Title - 26
2006-07: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 48.6%, Points off Title - 29
2007-08: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 44.6%, Points off Title - 41
2008-09: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 40.6%, Points off Title - 39
2009-10: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 41.8%, Points off Title - 16
2010-11: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 49.3%, Points off Title - 18
2011-12: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 45.0%, Points off Title - 20
2012-13: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 40.6%, Points off Title - 17
2013-14: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 41.6%, Points off Title - 17
2014-15: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 49.6%, Points off Title - 23
2015-16: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 40.6%, Points off Title - 11
2016-17: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 53.2%, Points off Title - 7
2017-18: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 64.3%, Points off Title - 23
2018-19: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 73.2%, Points off Title - 27
2019-20: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 76.8%, Points off Title - 40
2020-21: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 63.0%, Points off Title - 24
2021-22: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 71.5%, Points off Title - 22
2022-23: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 76.5%, Points off Title - 29
2023-24: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - 73.4%, Points off Title - 25
2024-25: Spurs % of Richest English Team Revenue - ??.?%, Points off Title - 46
Showing the gap relative to the top of the league really dials out a ton of noise in these numbers, it's such a stark story displayed this way. The decades-long quest to get into touching distance financially has wildly succeeded yet nonetheless backslid on the pitch into Sugar territory (with twice the money!)
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That would work if it wasn't actually the trend between even 1st and 3rd place.
I never said anyone has to accept it.
If you pay for a product, then you have every right to complain and demand something better - you got a European Trophy last season - what did Woolwich, Man City, Man U get last year?
Are you talking investment in success or investment in a quality product to watch every week, regardless of success? Or both?
What do you think your investment should give you outside of a stadium experience and the chance to watch a game, the outcome of which is determined but 1000's of individual factors spread out over 90 minutes of time.
Would you feel like you were getting your money's worth if you watched us bore win our way to 2nd in the league every year?
Im not demanding continued achievement, that’s ridiculous when you consider the spending power of others.
I’m expecting a step change in how we operate from a footballing perspective… signing good players quickly, paying over the odds now and again for the right player, moving players on for a fair price that don’t work out
So you got into football for the transfer window, and how the club operate behind the scenes?
We have seen a change in how we operate from a footballing perspective since 10 years ago IMO.
It's not rivalling our closest on the pitch rivals from the same period, but there has been a change - you want a greater one, that is seemingly determined by how we spend money and make money back on players. None of which will or, in fact, for us, has determined any success we have had on the pitch.
And 'the right player' is sooooooooo subjective - 90% of Spurs fans thought Ndombele was the right player..... all the while some of the best players we have watched the last 10 years have been bought for reasonable fees.
The EDF have been briefed on what to say and who to attack.
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