They're so biased though..they've left out the best paid chairman?
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They're so biased though..they've left out the best paid chairman?
No. You're not understanding.
We can afford to pay massive wages to multiple players of we so wished. We are the 9th richest club in the world. We are operating at a level that completely closed the door on being competitive.
% of revenue to wages, whether you like it or not, is an indicator of where a club's ambition lies. We are last in the league. Someone just posted that our revenue is bigger than Fulham's, Palace's and West Ham's combined, yet they have more players getting paid over £100k than us.
I sent you a link which explains why wages are more important than fees, you clearly didn't read it. The higher the revenue, the more you can pay in wages. We don't do that. It's a simple graph with a constant incline with wages and turnover % on the X and Y axis.
Your make believe arguments are just silly. If we use 60% of wages to turnover as the baseline, we then have X amount to spend on wages every year. That might mean reducing the wage bill in some years, increasing in others, but it's a baseline and allows a club to run efficiently. And with our revenue, there's absolutely no reason we can't be using that figure.
Hmmmm echoes of Poch speaking to the press for years knowing Levy had sniper with a laser locked on him
If the big reveal is someone's going to take a shit in Levy's letterbox, then I'm all for it.
Clearly none of them post on TFC. When has anyone given the club the benefit of the doubt?
Speak for yourself, still enjoying it.
But I'm not one to waste the summer obsessing over transfers.
Each season brings celebrations and misery, why not enjoy a couple months off?
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So, Villa at 95% wages to revenue ratio are the most ambitious club in the country? Then Newcastle and `Chelsea. All three above the actual Champions, Liverpool. I’m sure they celebrated the achievement of being “most ambitious” with gusto. Newcastle, as an example have a ratio of 68%, but their wage bill is £30m a year less than ours. Would you like us to be them? More ambitious? Where’s their Europa League Trophy?
I understand that higher wages generally predicts a higher chance of success. That’s why I want us to offer higher wages to secure better players. Pay more wages to the players = be more successful.
I also understand that a higher revenue allows us more scope to do this. Which is why I don’t come on here crying about go-karts and `Beyoncé, like the manic Outers.
But having a 95% wage to revenue ratio like Villa wins you fuck all. Having a higher wage bill does.
The opening statement from that link you sent me that I apparently didn’t read even says “Real Madrid's recent Champions League success has shown that squad salary levels are more important than one-off transfer fees, according to new research from KPMG”. Not one mention of the word “ratio” in the entire article. An article about money, not percentages.
If we wish to compete, we need to pay players more. I’ve no idea why you are even arguing with me at this point. I can maybe make my point more clear by drawing something in crayon?
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Lol & comparing the likes of Newcastle and Villa who got taken over in the relegation zone and in the championship to owning Liverpool.
Yes they are ambitious. They’ve catapulted them very high up the league. Ambition hits PSR limits and clubs have natural ceilings.
We are nowhere near ours, which is the whole fucking point..
In my first reply I said not to do a Villa, but you can't argue that they're extremely ambitious. That's not even a question, way more so than we are.
The fact of the matter is that if X% of revenue is translated to wages +/- 1-2%, then you have a very good baseline of what you can spend, where you can spend it and it's a number that isn't going to change too significantly year on year. It's about consistency and with our revenue being outrageously high, it should reflect that, which in turns allows to bring in better players.
Just using examples of one player making whatever a week is irrelevant.
Again, yes more wages = success. If we go up to 60% of our revenue, that is both sustainable and allows us to dine at the top table. That's why it's an important metric. You'll notice most big teams are all within ~10% of each other, but that must just be coincidence, seeing as you know, you don't believe in it.
90% unsustainable
60% healthy
40% prioritising financial stability
I'd ask for the crayons , but seems like you've eaten them.
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Ok. You crack on checking percentages. I’ll just hope we spend some more actual money.
You do know that this wage ratio thing only became a thing less than a decade ago? We had over a hundred years before that of the teams who spent the most money winning the most stuff. And it’s still the case now.
Winning all those titles without a nice wee Swiss Ramble ratio. Another coincidence, I’m sure.
There are very valid arguments to be had about Spurs spending more on players and adding value to the squad, I want us to get in players and we need depth, so before I make the next point I say so with the strong opinion that we need to strengthen the first 11 and any eye test would show we look ineffective in attack and the midfield isn't balanced right.
The wage percentage argument is not a direct relative of current performance. It is like measuring BMI (height weight ratio), the average healthy person is within a range but it's still perfectly possible to be healthy outside of it.
If I'm being peverse Spurs are about 42% but yet won the Europa League, I know, league form was disastrous. Them lot down the road got 2nd, according to Swiss Ramble, they hit 52%
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I know we need to be better, but this stat isn't as telling as it seems.
Basically I'm saying it's not about how much we spend (though we need to spend more) but how we choose to spend it, I still can't figure out why we extended Werner for example...
This was exclusively due to players salaries not being readily available in the public domain.
If Beyoncé and Go Karts give us more scope to invest in the team, why do we spend a lower proportion of our income on the team than every other club WITHOUT such revenue streams?
It's a question you and other manic ENIC defenders like to swerve
Well, no shit.
I’m honestly bored of this. People on here will argue about anything.
I just want us to offer higher wages to better players. That’s it.
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Contracts still mostly aren’t totally accurate. A lot of clauses and bonuses that the masses don’t consider/know about because they’re not on Spotrac or wherever you’re looking.
It’s not like American sports where the number that’s reported really is the same one that’s in writing.
