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The fact this mob have the fourth highest net spend while simultaneously running the club into the ground just shows that not only are they shit at football which everyone knows, but all the noise about how well run the club is, is laughable. They're shit at running a football team and shit at running the football business.

Ok yeah theyre good at running an entertainment venue. Cool.
 
Must admit, I thought the only way Levy would go was if the club finally sold for c£4billion , or he left in a box. Then anyone, but anyone, would be an improvement.

But this lot just give the impression of no direction, no real leadership, piss poor communication (the one thing we were promised would improve) and no apparent strategy. I appreciate that much of this would normally go on in the background and the likes of us would not be privy to it, but for Christ sake just give us a sign. It’s a bit like Frank telling us about the improvements he’s supposedly seeing already and all the positives that he can take from our performances. The truth being the fans are seeing virtually nothing or little to confirm that.

The icing on the cake was then to appoint that fuckin goon Vinai WoolwichSham (VW) as our CEO. A real master stoke that.
 
I did find it funny that we spent heavy on managers above all else as if the manager could somehow fix the entire issue.

Cheap Director of Football, cheap medical team, cheap players wages but really expensive manager. A sort of 1990’s view of football that an Alex Ferguson could come in and fix everything on his own.

The start point should have been an elite director of football who has a vision aligned with a club that plays attacking possession football. We never did that so here we are.

I remember when the Glazers got Rangnick in and he told them all their issues and how to fix them and they got scared and fired him. Someone like that.


It’s cheaper to change managers every year or so than actually improve the squad
 
I did find it funny that we spent heavy on managers above all else as if the manager could somehow fix the entire issue.

Cheap Director of Football, cheap medical team, cheap players wages but really expensive manager. A sort of 1990’s view of football that an Alex Ferguson could come in and fix everything on his own.

The start point should have been an elite director of football who has a vision aligned with a club that plays attacking possession football. We never did that so here we are.

I remember when the Glazers got Rangnick in and he told them all their issues and how to fix them and they got scared and fired him. Someone like that.
Him and brings Nagelsmann with him 😋

But not under ENIC.
 
Yeah great... our players would probably slip on them and turn their ankles!

I’m sure Vic would catch them all

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Our whole football operation is a mess. It starts with a lack of sporting ambition, these owners are not focused on winning trophies, on being the best team in the world. So that breeds a weak sporting culture where standards are low. There is no desire to sign elite players because there is no desire to be an elite team.

Then we have a lack of football expertise within the club, most of the people with decision making power know absolutely nothing football. The few that do like Paratici or Lange are incompetent or crooks. Nobody at this club is respected in the wider world of football.

The internal club hierarchy doesn’t have meaningful input from ex-players, fans etc so these brainless, ignorant executives don’t get proper football guidance or a proper understanding of the clubs’s identity. They are easily tricked by agents/coaches/clubs into spending money on shite.

Daniel Levy also did not see value in developing our own talent so for years our academy has been neglected, to the point where we don’t have a single club-trained player worth putting on the pitch. Not even an Oliver Skipp.

So we end up with the current disaster. Hundreds of millions being spent by totally clueless people who are more interested in NFL, boxing, concerts etc than football success.
It at least seems that someone behind the scenes have a similar idea given that we are recruiting a bunch of executives from much more seriously run setups like City to essentially rebuild us. But it is going to be a long wait until we see the results of such a restructuring.
 
It at least seems that someone behind the scenes have a similar idea given that we are recruiting a bunch of executives from much more seriously run setups like City to essentially rebuild us. But it is going to be a long wait until we see the results of such a restructuring.

The club needs all traces of Levy stripping out.

Regardless of who the owners are.

It will be a big job.

25 years of Levy cannot be removed overnight.

No quick fix.
 
People against, or not 100% onboard, with protests or walk-outs during matches need to keep in mind. The players are done with the owners, this Romero post and the following likes from other squad members tells you that.

I am also seeing another angle to VdV and Spence waving off Frank at the chelsea game and other similar incidents. They actually might've been fed up with the ownership and not buying the manager's talk anymore.
 
The fact this mob have the fourth highest net spend while simultaneously running the club into the ground just shows that not only are they shit at football which everyone knows, but all the noise about how well run the club is, is laughable. They're shit at running a football team and shit at running the football business.

Ok yeah theyre good at running an entertainment venue. Cool.
I think a lot of business experts would say that having a relatively low wage to revenue is good business, It might not be good if we want a top football team but that's pretty much what the owners seem to be doing.

The owners and board are running a conservative ship.
 
People against, or not 100% onboard, with protests or walk-outs during matches need to keep in mind. The players are done with the owners, this Romero post and the following likes from other squad members tells you that.

I am also seeing another angle to VdV and Spence waving off Frank at the chelsea game and other similar incidents. They actually might've been fed up with the ownership and not buying the manager's talk anymore.
I'm not against Romero's post but what do football clubs do when there's so many injuries because if they sign players to supplement the situation, when the injured players return from injury, there becomes too many players?

If another player was signed (which is what I had expected) it's still not enough to offset all the injuries, regarding Romero's post about only 11 players available. an additional January signing would mean we had 12 available players for the City game, so still be short of options.

I don't mind being corrected but I just don't get it.
 
I'm not against Romero's post but what do football clubs do when there's so many injuries because if they sign players to supplement the situation, when the injured players return from injury, there becomes too many players?

If another player was signed (which is what I had expected) it's still not enough to offset all the injuries, regarding Romero's post about only 11 players available. an additional January signing would mean we had 12 available players for the City game, so still be short of options.

I don't mind being corrected but I just don't get it.
Fair point. Allow me to explain and I hope it clears things
No one is asking for 11 new signings. The team had gaps and weaknesses that fans saw since September, the board themselves came out and told us they have the funds and will be active.
Left winger is a weakness, we do not have anyone on the squad who can perform there. where is the fix?
Right winger backup was sold. Where is the replacement in case the main RW got injured? Oh! Wait! He actually got injured and we left now with stop gap options.
Left back is a weakness, where is the fix?

These are 3 main weakness that could make HUGE difference in fixing the weak points, and making some options available for rotating players.
They run the club and they need to balance the sheet when signing someone new, do something to ship dead wood out. All should have been planned and executed when they opened their big mouths about committing to the success on the pitch.

Look what Manchester City did this month only:

Arrivals​

Antoine Semenyo from Bournemouth (£62.5 million)
Marc Guehi from Crystal Palace (£20 million)
Max Alleyne from Watford (Loan recall)
Sverre Nypan from Middlesbrough (Loan recall)

Departures​

Oscar Bobb to Fulham (£27 million)
Stefan Ortega to Nottingham Forest (Free transfer)
Mahamadou Susoho to Kocaelispor (£400,000)
Seb Naylor to Bristol City (Free transfer)
Justin Oboavwoduo to Juventus (Free transfer)
Will Dickson to Chesterfield (Undisclosed)
Jadel Katongo to Kayserispor (Undisclosed)

Loan Moves​

Kalvin Phillips to Sheffield United (Six-month loan)
Claudio Echeverri to Girona (Six-month loan)
Divine Mukasa to Leicester City (Six-month loan)
Stephen Mfuni to Watford (Six-month loan)
Jahmai Simpson-Pusey to FC Koln (Six-month loan)
Jaden Heskey to Sheffield Wednesday (Six-month loan)
Joel Ndala to Sheffield Wednesday (Six-month loan)
Emilio Lawrence to Luton Town (Six-month loan)

You want to tell me our "football people" (if any exist in this joke of a club) were spending their weeks and months since September working, and the folk at MC were also were doing their job??????
It's not rocket science what are asking for. All big clubs are finding ways, buy/sell, loan in/out. It's just we are stuck with complete incompetence at the top of this club.
 
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Fair point. Allow me to explain and I hope it clears things
No one is asking for 11 new signings. The team had gaps and weaknesses that fans saw since September, the board themselves came out and told us they have the funds and will be active.
Left winger is a weakness, we do not have anyone on the squad who can perform there. where is the fix?
Right winger backup was sold. Where is the replacement in case the main RW got injured? Oh! Wait! He actually got injured and we left now with stop gap options.
Left back is a weakness, where is the fix?

These are 3 main weakness that could make HUGE difference in fixing the weak points, and making some options available for rotating players.
They run the club and they need to balance the sheet when signing someone new, do something to ship dead wood out. All should have been planned and executed when they opened their big mouths about committing to the success on the pitch.

It's not rocket science what are asking for. All big clubs are finding ways, buy/sell, loan in/out. It's just we are stuck with complete incompetence at the top of this club.
Oh I get that 100% we're short at LW and LB, we do have two RWs in Kudus and Odobert but Kudus is injured.

I thought the tone of Romero's post was that we only had 11 players available and that's why he was playing at CB whilst feeling unwell, but we do have four CBs, plus Palhina, Gray and Davies., so Romero's position isn't under supplied with players, it's just that a lot of them are injured.

If Romero is complaining about not signing a LW or ready to play LB, then I get his point totally, it just didn't seem to me that's what he had said.

But anyway I'll accept your explanation about the gaps in the team.
 
We're all sickos, right? Dealing with this club and its shit is unreasonable, right?

I genuinely sometimes feel like it would be better for us long term to get relegated and spend a year in the Champo to sort out all of our issues and purge all of the charlatans.
 
We're all sickos, right? Dealing with this club and its shit is unreasonable, right?

I genuinely sometimes feel like it would be better for us long term to get relegated and spend a year in the Champo to sort out all of our issues and purge all of the charlatans.

Relegation would be absolutely horrendous, but that some contemplating it as the only way to reset (I’m in the same boat) says something about the fans’ disillusionment with the the state of the club and their exasperation at the sheer incompetence of the owners and so-called club leadership. Tottenham Hotspur FC, the sleeping giant that never fully awakens because its caretakers can be counted on to put it back to sleep whenever there are encouraging signs it’s stirring.
 
I've never known these two steaming in against ENIC like this before.

They're saying it's a clown show, run by bankers etc. and that the famous press conference by Conte was the best one there's been at the club. It's pretty much like they've been reading this thread, Also they reckon Romero was fed lies in the summer to get him to stay at the club, something that I've suspected myself and posted on this forum somewhere, It's all in the first 10 minutes or so, I couldn't be arsed after that and felt they'd made the point by then.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9C7skQuGA
 
It at least seems that someone behind the scenes have a similar idea given that we are recruiting a bunch of executives from much more seriously run setups like City to essentially rebuild us. But it is going to be a long wait until we see the results of such a restructuring.
It's a bit like our club trained problem. Two decent club trained footballers would make a big impact but it takes years to get there. In turn, we are well behind the rest of the big 6 as a destination in a very competitive league.
 
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