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scott said:
Over 5 years of them saying that crap all the time. How could they get it so wrong & be so easily fooled & mugged off. I guess it’s happening all the time now with people worshipping influencers or politicians.
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Remember that Schmoods geezer. Also known as Spursdem.

The vile personal abuse he used to throw at us and others who could see exactly what Levy / ENIC were all about when we was a small minority. Eventually he got banned.

Romanzo Criminale was another. In fact there were quite a few who no longer post.

I'd love to know their thoughts on the current state of play.
 
Tottenham Massive said:
Remember that Schmoods geezer. Also known as Spursdem.

The vile personal abuse he used to throw at us and others who could see exactly what Levy / ENIC were all about when we was a small minority. Eventually he got banned.

Romanzo Criminale was another. In fact there were quite a few who no longer post.

I'd love to know their thoughts on the current state of play.
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Yeah spursdem was a nasty piece of work. So was Romanozo. I honestly think most of them are still in denial & will be making excuses for levy, Lewis & Enic. They can’t admit getting it so wrong!
 
scott said:
He is as dodgy & crooked as they come . Horrible guy. Yet some of our fans championed him as moral & us as the only moral team in the land! :frankarms:. At least he got exposed for the criminal he is.
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I don't think anyone thinks he's moral. Being a billionaire, itself, is grossly amoral.

But there's a stark difference between dodgy stock/currency trading, and murdering homosexuals, taking immigrants' passports and forcing the to work in dangerous conditions for little pay unable to quit or return home, and trading women like livestock.
 
Good move IMO

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Guy From The Lane said:
Fukkin pussies...

CFT's messaging has been all over the place...

Apparently they're doing some sort of STAY UP meet with a bunch of YouTubers sit in a pub singing KUMBYAH...

BELEIVE IN THE TEAM - huggy hippy nonsense...

What if we lose that game???? OH PROTESTS ARE BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!
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I think they're dammed if they do and dammed if they don't

I think in this case though we should be uniting as a fanbase and putting all of our efforts in getting behind the team. ENIC aren't going anywhere for the foreseeable and a protest now won't change anything but we could still go down so instead of creating toxic atmosphere we need to show some togetherness and get behind the team.

Get the season out the way and then focus on ENIC IMO.
 
Shadydan said:
I think they're dammed if they do and dammed if they don't

I think in this case though we should be uniting as a fanbase and putting all of our efforts in getting behind the team. ENIC aren't going anywhere for the foreseeable and a protest now won't change anything but we could still go down so instead of creating toxic atmosphere we need to show some togetherness and get behind the team.

Get the season out the way and then focus on ENIC IMO.
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'I think they're dammed if they do and dammed if they don't' - Not if they stay consistent which they aren't & I'm viewing then & I've spoken to Billy many times on streams & in real life...

Toxic atmosphere???

Dude the only game I've been too that wasn't Toxic was the last NLD - it got pretty fukkin toxic fast...

Uniting as a fanbase??? show some togetherness???

Cool go sing kumbaya, give peace a chance bro! I'll be no part of that crap...

I'll keep my messaging consistent...I gave up my season ticket this year because Tottenham Hotspur isn't worth £1650 a year in this state & decided to go to games on an ad hoc basis...been to 10 games & 2 away games, 1 of them was travelling all the way to Everton the other was Palace away...so far I'm regretting that decision considering the money I've spent to 'support' this team this season...

I feel utter fukkin embarrassment for this team, this club & it's owners - I was actually invited to go to the away game at Atletico THANK FUKK I DIDN'T but I know people from here & in real life that made that trip to 'support the team' what happened???

This team, this club these owners have to show us not the other way round - if we believe that a protest jeopardises the players mentality then they're fukkin weak players...

If a movement cannot stay consistent with it's messaging it's not a movement that will make any progress - that post even in itself contradicts itself...

Lemme break that down :-

"Although this ownership and Board don't deserve it, we feel duty bound to stand with other supporters' groups and the fan collective generally at the Nottingham Forest game and have made the difficult decision to postpone any potential protest for this game."

Ok then they don't deserve it yet go onto to use wishy washy language to reward such behaviour under the guise of being united therefore rewarding such behaviours you claim to condemn...

'We remain steadfast..."

Nope you've cancelled the protest therefore you are not...

"Not to mention that the success of our movement is a numbers game"

You will only get numbers if your movement is consistent...

This statements reads like they are retroactively justifying a decision - trying to do damage control...
 
Guy From The Lane said:
Fukkin pussies...

CFT's messaging has been all over the place...

Apparently they're doing some sort of STAY UP meet with a bunch of YouTubers sit in a pub singing KUMBYAH...

BELEIVE IN THE TEAM - huggy hippy nonsense...

What if we lose that game???? OH PROTESTS ARE BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!
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Nah. I can see where they're coming from.

Nearly everyone at that Forest game will be 100% focused on supporting the team and any kind of protest will be half hearted and all the worms will be crawling out of the woodwork to ridicule them.

Any protest needs to be targeted towards a time that will gain maximum focus and attention.

The home game after we confirm safety would be ideal (or, God forbid, after we're relegated)

In fact, for maximum impact, a massive protest should take place before a NFL game or another high profile non football event. ENIC would absolutely hate that.

The problem though is that our match going fanbase is spread over such a large geographical area it would be almost impossible to organise unless we're actually playing at home ourselves.
 
Guy From The Lane said:
'I think they're dammed if they do and dammed if they don't' - Not if they stay consistent which they aren't & I'm viewing then & I've spoken to Billy many times on streams & in real life...

Toxic atmosphere???

Dude the only game I've been too that wasn't Toxic was the last NLD - it got pretty fukkin toxic fast...

Uniting as a fanbase??? show some togetherness???

Cool go sing kumbaya, give peace a chance bro! I'll be no part of that crap...

I'll keep my messaging consistent...I gave up my season ticket this year because Tottenham Hotspur isn't worth £1650 a year in this state & decided to go to games on an ad hoc basis...been to 10 games & 2 away games, 1 of them was travelling all the way to Everton the other was Palace away...so far I'm regretting that decision considering the money I've spent to 'support' this team this season...

I feel utter fukkin embarrassment for this team, this club & it's owners - I was actually invited to go to the away game at Atletico THANK FUKK I DIDN'T but I know people from here & in real life that made that trip to 'support the team' what happened???

This team, this club these owners have to show us not the other way round - if we believe that a protest jeopardises the players mentality then they're fukkin weak players...

If a movement cannot stay consistent with it's messaging it's not a movement that will make any progress - that post even in itself contradicts itself...

Lemme break that down :-

"Although this ownership and Board don't deserve it, we feel duty bound to stand with other supporters' groups and the fan collective generally at the Nottingham Forest game and have made the difficult decision to postpone any potential protest for this game."

Ok then they don't deserve it yet go onto to use wishy washy language to reward such behaviour under the guise of being united therefore rewarding such behaviours you claim to condemn...

'We remain steadfast..."

Nope you've cancelled the protest therefore you are not...

"Not to mention that the success of our movement is a numbers game"

You will only get numbers if your movement is consistent...

This statements reads like they are retroactively justifying a decision - trying to do damage control...
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Nah don't agree, I'm all for protesting but now is not the time.

They do though need to make it clear what they're protesting about, they want change from the board but a protest now won't change anything regardless.
 
Shadydan said:
Nah don't agree, I'm all for protesting but now is not the time.

They do though need to make it clear what they're protesting about, they want change from the board but a protest now won't change anything regardless.
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So you do agree with what I said???

"They do though need to make it clear what they're protesting about"

That was my whole point, it's about consistent messaging...
 
Tottenham Massive said:
Nah. I can see where they're coming from.

Nearly everyone at that Forest game will be 100% focused on supporting the team and any kind of protest will be half hearted and all the worms will be crawling out of the woodwork to ridicule them.

Any protest needs to be targeted towards a time that will gain maximum focus and attention.

The home game after we confirm safety would be ideal (or, God forbid, after we're relegated)

In fact, for maximum impact, a massive protest should take place before a NFL game or another high profile non football event. ENIC would absolutely hate that.

The problem though is that our match going fanbase is spread over such a large geographical area it would be almost impossible to organise unless we're actually playing at home ourselves.
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I can also see where they are coming from - my main issue is their inconsistent messaging & contradictory statements...

I am with you on this - if protests are to happen it would be wise to do such a thing at a high profile non footballing event - this will cause less issues & completely negate the 'we need to beweeve in the tweem' wishy washy stuff - I also get your point regarding geographical locations but for me this is why you have to stay consistent. My issue isn't with the protests my main issue is with the inconsistencies of CFT. When I break down their statement it's almost like they're talking out of two sides of their mouth...

For me the biggest grip I have is CFT's consistency - how can you attract people when you can't stay consistent in your plans, statements or practices???
 
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MemphisWill said:
I don't think anyone thinks he's moral. Being a billionaire, itself, is grossly amoral.

But there's a stark difference between dodgy stock/currency trading, and murdering homosexuals, taking immigrants' passports and forcing the to work in dangerous conditions for little pay unable to quit or return home, and trading women like livestock.
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Why do people do this? No one thinks such & such . When over the past 5 years I’ve had many ENIC fans tell me I am wrong when I say he is immoral . So no point us debating something you just claim is a lie when there is tons of post from ENIC fans saying the opposite.
Also you have a massive soft spot for levy & enic fans. Even after the shit mess they got us in to… how do you respond?
Defend enic, Lewis & his long term fans.
So weird. Anyway, I can’t be bothered arguing over it. You carry on defending Lewis & his fans. You do what you think is appropriate & right. Over & out!
 
scott said:
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Why do people do this? No one thinks such & such . When over the past 5 years I’ve had many ENIC fans tell me I am wrong when I say he is immoral . So no point us debating something you just claim is a lie when there is tons of post from ENIC fans saying the opposite.
Also you have a massive soft spot for levy & enic fans. Even after the shit mess they got us in to… how do you respond?
Defend enic, Lewis & his long term fans.
So weird. Anyway, I can’t be bothered arguing over it. You carry on defending Lewis & his fans. You do what you think is appropriate & right. Over & out!
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I literally called Lewis' very existence amoral.

Not my problem you can't/won't differentiate between thieves and murderers. I think you'll find most people can and do.
 
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