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Newcastle owners selling off 25%. Wonder if levy might want to get his money out and have a dabble up there? 🤔
🎶Daniel Levy......He's coming for you
He's coming for you. He's coming for you, oo ooo
Daniel levy....He's coming for you
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Yep, ridiculous to mention the word "smart" on anything they've done. Spent hundreds of millions to find the next Eriksen, when we could go out and buy a ready made Eriksen replacement, and potentially get relegated in the process.

You buy the young punts when you have a first team that is settled and bed them in. We don't do that. Those two should be tried at the Hague.
All about cutting corners and costs.
You are spot on, i have mentioned the same in the past.
You buy promising youngsters when you are set up.
They are inconsistent in their performances which is what we are.
If and when the club gets sorted, they need to recruit properly and aim for the right level of player.
 
The figures show how poorly the club has been managed, we've spend a huge amount on good but nothing exceptional players, the club can claim it's spent big on transfers fees over a period of time, but, they haven't been paying the sort of salaries that top players can get elsewhere, it's pretty much what the protests were about, and I guess it's a reason why Levy has been booted out.

Still that figure €763m on transfers since 2020 is about two seasons revenue at most, apparently the present revenue is €672.62. of course there's salaries to be taken into account but the club has surely had a couple of billion in revenue since 2020.

There's also transfers out to be taken into account. So where is most of the revenue going if not on transfers in?
What about how this club has operated since Levy was sacked makes you think he was forced out because we didn't pay high enough salaries to players?

Nothing about how this club is run is going to change. Levy was pushed out because he was Joe Lewis' man and Vivienne Lewis was underlining her authority over the club. She hired the gooner Vinai and held Levy over long enough to bed him in.

Levy said he wouldn't be appreciated until he was gone. I believe that indicates he doesn't expect the orders from the top will change at all under the new boss, and that he was able to do more with less over the past 25 years than Vinai or any otger replacement will.

Whether that's true or not, we'll see. I definitely think Vinai is shit, worse than Levy, and will eventually be sacked.
 
Daniel Levy buys a minority share in Newcastle.

The Saudi PIF tells Levy to spend whatever he wants, something Lewis would never do.

Levy, Poch and Newcastle win the league.

Spursy.
Ha ha.

If a club is about to embark on an ambitious spending spree, I don't think Daniel Levy is top of the wanted list 😂

However, if a prolonged period of austerity, minimal squad investment and a focus on non footballing expenditure is on the cards, he's the first man they're calling.
 
Ha ha.

If a club is about to embark on an ambitious spending spree, I don't think Daniel Levy is top of the wanted list 😂

However, if a prolonged period of austerity, minimal squad investment and a focus on non footballing expenditure is on the cards, he's the first man they're calling.
All of that assumes Levy was the one setting the guiding principles of the club. There's nothing about operations post-Levy that indicates that is the case.

We'll see, but I fear too many people give him too much of the blame compared to the Lewises.
 
All of that assumes Levy was the one setting the guiding principles of the club. There's nothing about operations post-Levy that indicates that is the case.

We'll see, but I fear too many people give him too much of the blame compared to the Lewises.
Lewis and Levy were on the same page. In the same bed.
They purchased the club together and Daniel Levy openly stated there objectives at the time.
If Joe was the vehicle, Daniel was the willing driver.
 
Lewis and Levy were on the same page. In the same bed.
They purchased the club together and Daniel Levy openly stated there objectives at the time.
If Joe was the vehicle, Daniel was the willing driver.
Not necessarily arguing the point.

But what would have done differently in his shoes?

You get hooked up with a wealthy (but not massively wealthy) investor who asks you to run their football club sustainably in return for a quarter share?

Sure, you could throw a strop. But then you end up sacked and what have you accomplished?

Just think there was a little too much jubilation when Levy left, as if things would change. It was never Levy setting the financial policy, it was always Lewis. Whether Levy was happy or not is really beside the point.
 
Not necessarily arguing the point.

But what would have done differently in his shoes?

You get hooked up with a wealthy (but not massively wealthy) investor who asks you to run their football club sustainably in return for a quarter share?

Sure, you could throw a strop. But then you end up sacked and what have you accomplished?

Just think there was a little too much jubilation when Levy left, as if things would change. It was never Levy setting the financial policy, it was always Lewis. Whether Levy was happy or not is really beside the point.

I genuinely believe those who put it all on Levy are a tad low IQ
 
What about how this club has operated since Levy was sacked makes you think he was forced out because we didn't pay high enough salaries to players?

Nothing about how this club is run is going to change. Levy was pushed out because he was Joe Lewis' man and Vivienne Lewis was underlining her authority over the club. She hired the gooner Vinai and held Levy over long enough to bed him in.

Levy said he wouldn't be appreciated until he was gone. I believe that indicates he doesn't expect the orders from the top will change at all under the new boss, and that he was able to do more with less over the past 25 years than Vinai or any otger replacement will.

Whether that's true or not, we'll see. I definitely think Vinai is shit, worse than Levy, and will eventually be sacked.
Not paying wages in line with a club of our size has led to us recruiting lots of subpar players and opportunistic punts, which in-turn, directly contributed to years of decline in sporting performance, which is what he was sacked for.
 
Seems like we were linked to Wharton, Scott, Olise etc all when they were Champo players, but the managers didn't want them

people always say we should "back the manager" and not "sign kids", but managers don't expect to be here to benefit from signing them and have no patience with it. Redknapp said similar recently - they don't give a fuck.
So really, we need to be moving towards a point where we have a Sherwood style person in on the academy side who brings in young products and pushes for a path into the first team.
That would mean we could spread the budget around less and focus on 1 or 2 players in our £150m budget, instead of 6 shit ones
Very good point well made . It's a crying shame that the academy are not trained to play with the same philosophy as the first team . Wayne Burnette should be coaching them so their path to the first team can become almost seamless , The players will already be playing the football the first team are playing as second nature .
 
Not paying wages in line with a club of our size has led to us recruiting lots of subpar players and opportunistic punts, which in-turn, directly contributed to years of decline in sporting performance, which is what he was sacked for.
No. Levy was 100% sacked because Vivienne didn't want her dad's long term partner still running things. Standard business takeover policy.

Thinking anything else is speculative, and misplaced IMO, optimism. The MO of the club isn't changing as long as ENIC own it.
 
Very good point well made . It's a crying shame that the academy are not trained to play with the same philosophy as the first team . Wayne Burnette should be coaching them so their path to the first team can become almost seamless , The players will already be playing the football the first team are playing as second nature .
So many clubs do it better - we wouldn't have harry kane in the team without a Sherwood pushing for them and I feel like when McDermott went it really went downhill.

I've said it before, but clubs like Chelsea, City, Liverpool - they farm their academy and subsidise their budget with the ones that aren't good enough (although they do let some that are slip through).


Felt like we were better at it when it was just manager+levy, and have been fucking awful at selling ever since we got a Hitchen/Partici/Lange type in doing it
 
No. Levy was 100% sacked because Vivienne didn't want her dad's long term partner still running things. Standard business takeover policy.

Thinking anything else is speculative, and misplaced IMO, optimism. The MO of the club isn't changing as long as ENIC own it.
So the internal review was all just a load of made up nonsense? Business takeover strategy? It's the same company, whatever way you want to swing it.
 
So the internal review was all just a load of made up nonsense? Business takeover strategy? It's the same company, whatever way you want to swing it.

The "internal review" was a desperate attempt to try and nullify his £1bn-ish stake. Absolutely nailed-on.

It's probably why Venkatesham was gagging to blame him - I think they've all underestimated how hard is to run a PL club
 
So many clubs do it better - we wouldn't have harry kane in the team without a Sherwood pushing for them and I feel like when McDermott went it really went downhill.

I've said it before, but clubs like Chelsea, City, Liverpool - they farm their academy and subsidise their budget with the ones that aren't good enough (although they do let some that are slip through).


Felt like we were better at it when it was just manager+levy, and have been fucking awful at selling ever since we got a Hitchen/Partici/Lange type in doing it
When I suggested that Tim Sherwood should be running the academy's prodigies I got shot down in flames by some idiot , the prick moaned that Sherwood was a self serving parasite and had no place in our club . I think Sherwood would do a great job of mentoring the youngsters that are showing the right attitude and promise . There are so many that don't make it , and most can't make the giant leap from academy to first team level , but for the special talents that are coming through - we need an ambassador like Sherwood at their side telling them if they keep their nose clean and concentrate on their football - that there's a path to first team football . There are some good young kids coming through ATM - Williams Barnett is a great young player who's destined for a tremendous career in football .
 
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