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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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Mick Cooper said:
lets hope we don't buy a hatful of crap like when we sold Bale
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I’ve always thought we did ok with those transfers. Eriksen turned out to be fantastic for at least three seasons. Lamela has been a steady eddy. Soldado was a dud, but we had every reason to expect he would be good. Likewise Paulinho. Chadli had his moments.

It was only Chiriches that was an absolute stinker.
 
ElTel said:
There is no chunk of cash to throw at anything. It's clear the club is in serious financial trouble because of covid and we are in no position to bring in the calibre of players that is going to lift us into a title challenging position which is where Harry wants to be.
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Did we not post our record net spend on transfers in the middle of the covid lockdown last summer?

Levy is no fool when it comes to these things. He wasn't going all in with a pair of tens then hoping for the best.
 
tedesco23 said:
My guess is that there will be a total-value number that is very high--150m or so--but that total value will be reached by a smaller cash outlay plus players. I'm guessing Ake is the easy inclusion--he hasn't seemed to click at City, Stones is nailed-on now, and we need a multi-player makeover at the back--and maybe Jesus or Cancelo.
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They won't give us Cancelo and surely someone like Jesus wouldn't be happy at being a makeweight in a bumper deal, where he leaves City who win everything. You bring in players in that way and it doesn't always work. Bit of a confidence knock and then they're not as good as they could be...
 
Mampi said:
Did we not post our record net spend on transfers in the middle of the covid lockdown last summer?

Levy is no fool when it comes to these things. He wasn't going all in with a pair of tens then hoping for the best.
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But we have had a whole season without fans since then. Also we had a record net spend last year but it's not impressive compared to our rivals record net spends. It's just that we have had relatively low net spends in all our previous years under Enic so its not really difficult to create new records.
 
Mampi said:
Did we not post our record net spend on transfers in the middle of the covid lockdown last summer?

Levy is no fool when it comes to these things. He wasn't going all in with a pair of tens then hoping for the best.
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Are you sure? Because we had good cards and a decent plan, but nobody expected Covid and we have a massive debts because of the stadium, which we're not able to pay off right now....
 
Somebody said:
They won't give us Cancelo and surely someone like Jesus wouldn't be happy at being a makeweight in a bumper deal, where he leaves City who win everything. You bring in players in that way and it doesn't always work. Bit of a confidence knock and then they're not as good as they could be...
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If Harry goes to City then Jesus will not get as much game time. He has already had to put up sharing time with Aguero so he might think it's time to move on anyway and may be open to being part of the deal. I don't know how ambitious he is though.
 
Sir Archibald Crooks said:
Dan Kilpatrick now saying that Kane believed he had a gentlemans agreement with Levy from last summer about giving us 1 more season. If thats the case then if we recieve £150m then i think we should sell, preferably abroad. You can't have your top player going through a season with the massive hump because the chairman has welched on an agreement.
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Gentleman's agreement, that's nice, we probably thought we had something a little more binding when we agreed to pay him £200k per week for 6 years though...
 
Somebody said:
They won't give us Cancelo and surely someone like Jesus wouldn't be happy at being a makeweight in a bumper deal, where he leaves City who win everything. You bring in players in that way and it doesn't always work. Bit of a confidence knock and then they're not as good as they could be...
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Yeah, I might have the players wrong, and I also think you're right that this strategy could lead to disaffected players precisely at a time when a new manager will need buy-in and will want to create a good feeling at the club. I don't mean to be endorsing the move.

That said, I think the strategy is the most likely one. I don't think we're going to find any club giving us 150-180m for Kane, but I think an agreement on that valuation is possible, and the question then becomes how you get there. It's also possible that nothing happens, and Kane stays. I think both of those things (another year of Kane, or a package of 90-110m plus players from someone) are more likely than is finding ourselves with 175m in cash for Kane this summer.
 
ElTel said:
I think we've been very fortunate have 6 years of peak Harry, it's just unfortunate we haven't had the on field success during this time. At some point in the next few years we would have had to replace Harry anyway, no player can play forever so that time has simply come a little sooner than we would have wanted.
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How about how fortunate Kane's been? Never had to do a day's work in his life and a multi millionaire just for playing football, and it was all on his doorstep where he was given this oppurtunity. So many modern footballers have no concept of how privileged they are. They always want more and poor poor Kane hasn't got any winner's medals so he wants to go to the place he's guaranteed them, even if he hardly plays or is just wheeled out by Guardiola for special occasions to play in front of fans for whom he'll just be their latest new toy they'll soon get bored of and villify every bad game and start demanding another new toy instead.

I really thought Kane was more than that, I'm so disappointed in who he's revealed himself to be.
 
tedesco23 said:
Yeah, I might have the players wrong, and I also think you're right that this strategy could lead to disaffected players precisely at a time when a new manager will need buy-in and will want to create a good feeling at the club. I don't mean to be endorsing the move.

That said, I think the strategy is the most likely one. I don't think we're going to find any club giving us 150-180m for Kane, but I think an agreement on that valuation is possible, and the question then becomes how you get there. It's also possible that nothing happens, and Kane stays. I think both of those things (another year of Kane, or a package of 90-110m plus players from someone) are more likely than is finding ourselves with 175m in cash for Kane this summer.
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Yeah, true. Very possible. Anything could happen. I think if it was a deal plus players deal, Ake could work. I'd take Ake. Could be a solution at the back and he's not getting much time at city... but would he be any different to Sanchez? I think maybe money without player exchange would be the best deal if he goes to city...
 
mike_l said:
Gentleman's agreement, that's nice, we probably thought we had something a little more binding when we agreed to pay him £200k per week for 6 years though...
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When he signed the contract he stated he was more than happy here why we continued to improve and competed. We're doing neither. If Levy felt the contract was totally binding then why even bother saying give me another season? If Levy did say that then i dont want a pissed off player here next season.
 
If we had some decent infrastructure and footballing intelligence in the club then I think a process where we sell our best players for huge money once we’ve got some good years out of them is a good model. The right model for us.
We aren’t a Chelsea, city or Utd financially (yet) but have competed over the past years. No reason why, with good recruitment we couldn’t develop another group of talented players that can challenge.
 
Let's just consider for a second that ENIC are going nowhere and not going to change their model at Spurs.

If we put our foot down and said "You've got 3 years left Harry and we aren't selling you"

What happens in 3 years?
Kane is 31. He leaves on a free.
And ENIC don't give what ever pleb manager have any where near the kind of money it would take to replace a once in a generation striker.
This is the crux.
If it was City, Chelsea, United, they could easily afford to put their foot down and refuse to sell. They throw their toys away when they're not using them anymore. Chelsea usually cook the books and make it look like they got a lot more money too.

Not Spurs. Not Levy.

It's his fault Kane is leaving. The only way he can salvage anything from this is to get absolutely the best deal possible.
And that isn't taking unwanted players in exchange.

If I was Levy and city offered me Ake, I'd say Dias or fuck off.
If United offered Lingard I'd say Shaw, Slab Head and Martial or fuck off.

We need a rebuild and we need top drawer players. Not cast offs who can't get in our rivals teams.
 
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Are you sure? Because we had good cards and a decent plan, but nobody expected Covid and we have a massive debts because of the stadium, which we're not able to pay off right now....
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We were already in lockdown with suggestions it would likely continue for another year.

I don't believe for a moment that Levy / Spurs didn't give a passing thought to the potential of lockdown lasting a year. We were first out the traps penny pinching, furloughing staff etc. then splashing out a record net spend in the summer.
 
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