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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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Genuine question:

Would people welcome him back if he came back and apologized publicly? I would. To be fair, at the end of the day, he's still Harry Kane. If he were to change his mind and commit 110% to Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, I wouldn't have any issue with him staying.
I think the more important question is whether his teammates would accept him back as one of the guys? I'm not certain Kane can win that trust back, ever. Any club he goes to, players will not look at him in the same light. There are only a few athletes in the world that could ever get away with that kind of behavior.
 
You will be surprised guys. Let’s not forget, Liverpool fans burned Steven Gerrard shirts and sent the guy death threats when he was on the verge of joining Chelsea. That was all soon forgotten wasn’t it ? I’m just as pissed as anyone with Kane and want that fucker to apologise, but at the end of the day, I would rather keep our best players and not be bullied. It sends a clear message to any player that you can’t force your way out of our club. It sends a clear message to any of the other rivals that you can’t tap up and try unsettling our top players because we ain’t selling to you. I think people need to swallow their pride and see we are better off with Kane and building around him with quality like Romero, than we are selling Kane and trying to find a suitable replacement
 
Still think we should keep him. Don’t get me wrong, I’m royally fucked off with Harry and feel he has really taken the piss out of us supporters who have adored him, but football is a very fickle game and as quickly as we have turned, we can love again if he starts banging them in.

The reason I’m so for keeping him is the principle. I’m fed up of being the Cherry pickers dream for these cunt clubs like City, United etc. Why should we allow them to tap up and unsettle our star players ? Would City be doing this to Mo Salah ? I don’t think so.

The problem is, we let Harry go now for whatever money, who’s to say in 6 years time we get the same thing happening to Dane Scarlett ? A never ending cycle of us selling off our best assets to “bigger clubs”.

For me it’s time to nip this in the bud and stop getting bullied by players and the clubs wanting to weaken us. I don’t want to strengthen those cunts City. Harry Kane can apologise and grovel with whatever statement he comes out with, but I want us to categorically tell City he isn’t for sale, fuck em!!!
I want him gone

We are shit with him , rather be shit without him and anyone else that wants to treat the fans this way
 
We are shit with him because we have a dog shit defence. If we keep him and build with quality like Romero, who’s to say we won’t do much better ? Sorry, Kane stays for me. Swallow your pride. Don’t want to sell City any of our star players anymore. Cunts!!!
We have a dogshit midfield too though

And no signs that we are trying to address that
 
Lo Celso was great in the Copa and so was Hojbjerg in the Euros. We also have Skippy and Ndombele who are decent players with potential. My worst concern is Nuno and the full-backs, but the squad isn't half bad with the prick in attack.
Lo Celso is bang average in my opinion , plus he cant stay fit for more than two games at a time

Hojberg has the right attitude but is severely limited in a team as dysfunctional as ours

I have high hopes for Skipp but fear it's a bit too soon for him

Ndombele is an utter waster
 
Genuine question:

Would people welcome him back if he came back and apologized publicly? I would. To be fair, at the end of the day, he's still Harry Kane. If he were to change his mind and commit 110% to Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, I wouldn't have any issue with him staying.

Honestly, it is such a stab in the back that I don’t know what he could say to make it all better. For me, it would have to be an incredibly open and honest interview, none of his media personae types of explanation/apology is going to cut it. If he were to explain his frustration, explain his actions, and seemingly offers a sincere apology I could see being much more open to an apology from him.

I just don’t know how anyone trusts him after this.
 
Fucking melts. There is only one King Kane of WHL.


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Nope, what I said was:

and you disingenuously turned that into:



It is insightful and educational. But you need to unlearn what you think you know about the game and look at it a different way. But don't do it on my urging. When you finally realize the truth then pour one out for me.

And replacing goal scorers thing: you didn't comment on my Harry to WBA point. Feel free to show me how goals are an intrinsic quality of a player. If it is then perhaps it can be taught. Otherwise it's some magical quality that only some are born with.

Nope. I asked you. Feel free to watch Harry's 100 goals and actually take it in. He's a striker, he's there in the box to put in the goals created by other people. Does he do it better than many other strikers? Yes, but don't overrate a player for doing their job. And as has been pointed out many times on here, and the stats bear it out, he is actually not that clinically efficient a striker.


Most strikers are just another striker in my estimation. Harry at WBA would be lost. Harry at City will bang them in. Young Messi at WBA would still be a threat because of his actual intrinsic qualities as a player. Harry possesses no threat, nothing a defender needs to fear. And many CBs from the Euros would concur. Harry is a smart and determined players but that's not going to scare any top level CB. You need threat elsewhere to take away their attention. Someone like Lukaku has threat. He has things (strength being one of them and speed another) that would make CBs worry.


I've been looking forward to the day he moves on because I've felt his loss can be replaced if done right ie fill out the squad and increase the threat in multiple positions.


Many overrate them to their detriment. And my admonition was about overrating what they do or rating them solely on goals. There more to the position.

No, you didn't explicitly say he's a tap-in merchant, you just keep heavily implying it. You compared scoring goals in the premier to meter maids writing tickets. So yeah, you basically said he's a tap-in merchant. The man also led the league in assists last year.

You ask me if scoring goals is "intrinsic", because then it could "be taught". I have to ask; do you know what intrinsic means? Whatever your point was; it's not either/or. It's a combination of intrinsic talent, hard work, and experience.

Is Harry less valuable at WBA? Sure. Does that matter? Not in the slightest. Because 1) they can't afford his transfer fee or his wages, 2) he wouldn't go there on a free if they could afford his wages, and 3) they don't set the market for top strikers.

Using Messi to prove the point is just icing on the cake. We're talking about selling the leader in goals and assists to the best team in our own league. Not whether the GOAT would have more of an impact on a relegated team.

It's crazy because I don't disagree with selling Kane at the right price, but saying most strikers need pieces around them is like saying most keepers need a good back line. It's not nearly as insightful as you think it is.

You never answered my question. Do you rate keepers for stopping goals? Is saving goals somehow more or less intrinsic than scoring them?
 
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The problem is, we let Harry go now for whatever money, who’s to say in 6 years time we get the same thing happening to Dane Scarlett ? A never ending cycle of us selling off our best assets to “bigger clubs”.

To be fair, Penis Snake has an absolute moron for an agent who got rinsed by Levy in 2018. I cannot see anybody else being that stupid as to sign a six year deal without suitable clauses included especially after this train wreck. Even that coke fiend Grealish saw enough sense to hire Bale's agent.

I don't think it is a matter of Penis Snake doing the same bullshit stunt under a different agent because he wouldn't be in this position to start off with. He would be off tapping in bangers for City and being the poster child for homophobic oppression in the middle east.
 
No, you didn't explicitly say he's a tap-in merchant,
Ok, so we have our answer then.

You ask me if scoring goals is "intrinsic", because then it could "be taught". I have to ask; do you know what intrinsic means?
LOL. Again, what I said first was:
And don't overrate strikers because they score goals. Goals are not an intrinsic quality of a player. They are a function of a well drilled team. Put Harry in WBA under Pulis and he wouldn't have half the goals.
And they I turned it around to ask you:
Feel free to show me how goals are an intrinsic quality of a player. If it is then perhaps it can be taught. Otherwise it's some magical quality that only some are born with.
So you pick up on a typo (obvs should say "isn't" because if it isn't a typo then the whole friggin structure of the point is screwed) and used it as an 'intelligence' dig. NIce!

Whatever your point was; it's not either/or. It's a combination of intrinsic talent, hard work, and experience.
...and the work of the other 9 outfield players doing most of the work.

Listen, you've disingenuously placed words into my mouth (2x) and then intentionally misconstrued my point and continue to tell me what I said no matter the quotes I throw at you. This is going nowhere. Let's let it drop. Keep on thinkin what you already do. Harry's the greatest ever striker ever.
 
todd1882 todd1882 Sorry for the intelligence dig. Honestly. I shouldn't have gone there. For the record I fall somewhere in between:

"Harry Kane is the greatest striker ever"

and

scoring a goal is as easy as a meter maid writing a ticket. (your analogy, not mine)

And I've got no issues selling him for the right price to the right team.
 
Genuine question:

Would people welcome him back if he came back and apologized publicly? I would. To be fair, at the end of the day, he's still Harry Kane. If he were to change his mind and commit 110% to Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, I wouldn't have any issue with him staying.

For people who haven't seen it, go watch the Aaron Rodgers press conference he did a week ago,

Never have I seen a professional athlete be so honest in a press conference.

If Harry Kane would come out with a press conference and tell us the honest truth, like Rodgers did, I think it would be a lot easier to forgive him.
 
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