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What ambition is that? Getting to finals and having games that need to be won to win you league titles?
If he had gone or does go to city would he win the league or CL the chances are much greater.
...implication being that I'm JCL to this "sell Harry" lark...
And this is where the convo usually goes off the rails. So I ask, let me make this statement and we just leave it at that: I don't rate a striker on the number of goals he scores so this conditional statement you make matters not in my eyes.
I would be, have been, and will continue to say we should have sold him.
What others do is no concern of mine. So I need not be constrained by their lack of recognition. And there were many saying we shouldn't keep a player that wants to leave. Many suggested we'd be looking at another Eriksen-type situation. I was in both camps so I will include it.
The thing is tht it doesn't matter how he plays for us. The right decision was there to be made and it wasn't. Decisions are made with the information and insight available at the time.
...implication being those that criticize cannot see these positive things and are blinded by their negativity then? Unfair...and nonsense! And liking seeing the positives shouldn't stop one from realistically acknowledging the negatives. My belief is that the happy clappers think they are superior fans in some jaded way. Everyone wants positivity around their club but that doesn't mean you have to walk around in some Panglossian, happy clapping, mindless stupor. It's cult-like. (and of course I have to add the disclaimer "not saying that you are any of these things etc etc blah blah blah")
I'd say Leicester about 3 seasons ago? Didn't we score 7? Or maybe Hull the next week.When's the last time Harry's scored a hat trick?
Such a fucking great point. So good in fact I've made it multiple times myself. Folks don't like to hear it. There was only 1 player ever worth this type of crazy money.
Igula
Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar for a while were worth double that.
You’re right. Harry will win a few trophies with us by the time he hangs up his boots and then he’ll wonder why he ever flirted with Man City.
Look I don't want him to win stuff at city but the reality side of me knows that it would happen.
Do you honestly see us winning something anytime soon?
Did you really post this yesterday:
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Only Messi...for me. For that type of money you want a player that cannot be defended, that not only creates their own goals but creates for others. A players that can handle pressure with the ball and transition on the dribble or with the pass...no matter how you defend him. Too many arrows in his quiver to be contained.
He always starts a season slowly but he should be up to speed for Sunday
Think he has a wonderful sense of humour in other words taking the piss course we won't bag trophies.
ronaldo is a great goal scorer, messi outscores him as a playmaker...worlds apart
Not really statement of any meaning though, is it? I compare to Messi. Everyone on this board compares to Messi. Just how well we show up in comparision is the problem. In Ronaldo - the goal scorer's case he compares unfavorably to Messi - the complete player. But yes, he does compare to him.
surely you have to have something to support alleging any potential bias. I just stated all the things Messi was and Ronaldo is so few of those. Hell of a knack for getting a goal though.
One has scored goals and the other has done things that few could even conceive. And yes they have done it for years.
Like you said, respect to them both. But the standard Ronaldo set as a goalscorer does not put him in the same convo with Messi. I wish I had the van Basten quote about this. but let's jsut say his view on the linking of these two players as if they are equals was not a good one for CRonaldo fans.
