Does he go in January or the summer?
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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane
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Kane has had a champions League final to perform in. He has had more than one league title chase to participate in. He underperformed.
Now he's just taking the piss. What a fucken cunt he is.
Now he's just taking the piss. What a fucken cunt he is.
whenever folks say "So your saying..." or "Are you really saying..." you can bet someone is going to misconstrue or mischaracterize someone's argument to set up a strawman.
What I said was:
...and what I meant is that 99.9% of folks on this board would be doing exactly the same as Harry if not worse. Although many like to set themselves up as such on this board, football fans in general, and most humans are not the paragons of virtue that they'd like to project themselves as being...especially when trying to feel holier than thou in comparison to another.
So any of these words I've said and in the order I've said them is what I'm really saying. Name a player that didn't want to leave a shitty, losing situation when they had the option of doing so? Name me a human that wouldn't want to improve their living, work, etc situation if they had the option of doing so? Name me one that wouldn't be disappointed if external forces prevented such? The amount of money doesn't change these things.
He’s not getting service because his teammates know he doesn’t want the ball.
He doesn’t want the ball so he isn’t trying to get the ball.
This is because he wants to leave, and not tactical
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The problem is now what happens if Man City don't come back in for him? Are we desperately hoping PSG will come in and that he goes there just to win something?
The thought of being stuck with him for another 2 seasons is enough to make me cry.
It didnt look like a 4-3-3 vs arse. More of a 6-0-3-1 . Midfield looked empty.
Threw away all of his good will in 6 months. Went from seeming like the "model pro" to showing his true colors: a wanker of a man
whenever folks say "So your saying..." or "Are you really saying..." you can bet someone is going to misconstrue or mischaracterize someone's argument to set up a strawman.
Matt Le Tissier?
welp, let's look at this. How much of an improvement would it have really been? Did he have a real chance at winning things? Or was it mid-table to mid-table and just possibly a bit money? And more risk? I'm not even sure a move from Soton to Spurs is even that enticing a prospect now lol. And beyond that only 1 name pops up being the exception that proves the rule. Everyone would do it and Kane is no exception. The fact that he actually signed that long a deal is something we should be thankful for. Otherwise he could have pulled a strop every offseason for more money and he'd have had us by the balls. And as was shown this summer he could have really screwed the club had he known the current info he knows now back then. He'll also have that 40M-ish option to screw the club this summer though.
I guess I’m not quite sure if you’re finding his actions or condemning them? The expediency argument (if you are condoning him) doesn’t really hold ground for my earlier reasons - it’s a bit of a moral judgement snd someone somewhere has to do the ‘right’ thing. If you prefer that we all just go ‘fuck it, there’s nothing beyond money and trophies in the world’, then fair dos, but I disagree wholeheartedly and think his behaviour is appalling (as is anyone who lives comfortably and downs tools because they don’t get a pay rise). The difference with the world I live in is that I can easily resign and go elsewhere, for Kane it would cost him buying out his contract but, as others have mentioned, he’s loaded so…instead of behaving as I would, or others of Joe Public, he’s being all passive-aggressive and - apparently - having a tantrum. That’s no way to behave and I would say the same to a colleague as to Kane.
However, I think (though I may be misinferring) that you are accepting of his behaviour ( tacitly condoning) as it’s what you believe others would have done?
Oh well.
I reckon City will offer a little for him in Jan - but in reality, if he doesn’t sort himself out, he’s probably got a move to Everton in his future. Sad demise.
Mate, it's never popular to be a contrarian. Never. If we were able to bet on our convictions 1-2 years ago, we would have been paid off 100 to 1 for correctly predicting where Kane was headed. I'm actually quite surprised how this caught people so off guard. It was very clear.KaneDomBadBoy
It’s like a parallel universe in here…….were these people really calling us gooners and west ham fans just a mere two weeks ago?
No look at them go…….
……congratulations to everyone who now agrees with everything we told you, and feels that now it’s ok to not only slate Kane’s performances but to hurl abuse at him.
Because now you think it’s ok, and now you think he’s poor, and now you don’t like his attitude and now you dont feel he will turn it around and now you don’t think it’s all about his poor teammates and now it’s not just tactical and now golden boots mean fuck all.
Well done. Well done.
State of you
Personally, I thought his decline was noticeable during the 18-19 season when he sustained a couple injuries. Yeah he had a couple of seasons after that where he was still putting up good goalscoring numbers but footballers rarely just fall off a cliff.
With good players, at their peak, they can score/perform against anyone. And both statistics/eye test will confirm that.
Then, when they begin to decline, they have troubles performing against the very top teams.
Then sooner rather than later, they have trouble performing against above average teams.
Then average teams.
Then finally, it comes to the point where they just struggle, period.
I think the question now is whether Kane is at the point of his career where we're going to see him struggling against average teams or if he's just going to struggle, period.
I'm rooting for him to make a comeback but unfortunately, I think we're just seeing the normal regression of a player in decline.
It's sad to see.
He hasn't 'suddenly' lost all his ability. We've been seeing his decline for 2+ years now. The normal regression/decline is as follows:
-Player is at his peak and can perform against anyone
-Player begins to struggle against elite clubs
-Player begins to struggle against above average clubs
-Player begins to struggle against average clubs
-Player begins to struggle against poor clubs
-Player is complete shit
So scoring against, Pacos, Mura and Newcastle will still get you goal numbers but it doesn't mean that you are any way a top footballer.
Son's #5 in the PL as far as goals go and also has 2 assists.
Yes he's had a couple poor games but he's playing in line with what he always does.
On a pro forma/rata basis, he's still on track to score 15 goals and 8 assists. Right around what he always does.
Well if he gets his move and starts banging in the goals, as he will do, I hope you'll be man enough to admit you were talking a lot of rubbish. Go back less than one year and not one single person was saying he's declined, or declining, even those that didn't rate him quite as highly as others.
Uhh no. I was saying that he's been declining for a while and so was
sammyspurs
. And I think
todd1882
And like I said, the path of his regression/decline is in line with any other player. It always starts with being unable to compete against top opposition and then it spirals down from there. That's why when good players, when they age, play in the top leagues then slowly but surely, they end up in the MLS. They rarely are at the top of their games and then suddenly end up in the MLS.
If he starts banging in goals for City, I wouldn't attribute that to Kane being a top player. Any half decent striker would be banging in goals for City.
Still in denial, how glorious Kane must be for you
Feck me you've got if bad.
How did H manage to score 5 goals in his last 8 games if nobody wants to pass to him?