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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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But in fairness to Kane, is he missing sitters? He isn’t even getting the ball. It can’t be all his fault. The longer he goes without goals the less likely it is that he gets his move away.
He could have got the ball and started a counter attack but he didn’t want to stretch a leg 30 cms so instead Utd scored.

To get the ball, he needs to get into the box.
He’s too slow. He’s not where he should be, and you can blame Nuno all you like, but yesterday I saw him several times hiding behind three or four defenders, not giving a fuck about trying to come back for a cut back, or move around, just stands there and thinks a ball in will land on his foot and hopes half the Man U team all misjudge it.

He doesn’t work.
That’s why he doesn’t score.
 
They never made such a bid.
Neither you nor I know that for sure - unless you're Levy in disguise.
Apparently, from what I read, Levy never entered into any negotiations with Man City.
The thing is...it's fairly obvious that Kane's form has dipped and part of that is the failed Man City deal. However, I did read about Man City offering £130m for him.
Again, yes he is a professional but still not above his emotions as had hoped he would be.
 
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He could have got the ball and started a counter attack but he didn’t want to stretch a leg 30 cms so instead Utd scored.

To get the ball, he needs to get into the box.
He’s too slow. He’s not where he should be, and you can blame Nuno all you like, but yesterday I saw him several times hiding behind three or four defenders, not giving a fuck about trying to come back for a cut back, or move around, just stands there and thinks a ball in will land on his foot and hopes half the Man U team all misjudge it.

He doesn’t work.
That’s why he doesn’t score.

Shit as he's been, and he is currently dog shit, he's still our top scorer this season. So what excuses are you going to make for everyone else?
 
Shit as he's been, and he is currently dog shit, he's still our top scorer this season. So what excuses are you going to make for everyone else?
Everyone else isn’t a striker

It was categorically explained to you 150 times why and who Kane scores against

Top scorer sounds good doesn’t it.
Now do the honest breakdown of that.

This is the entire problem. Harry Kane does not perform well under any sort of high pressure or against big clubs.

Do you now believe this?
How can players “feed” a striker that DOES NOT want the ball?
 
But that contract means he stays with us until the end of it. Unless terms are met that we are happy for that to be terminated.
And it also mean we deal with whatever he serves up then. So what's the problem? He trains and is available for selection...contractual terms fulfilled. We should stop bitching about then...

That's not a fully acceptable answer to you is it? Then I suggest you don't take this approach.
He can't have thought we were realistically going to win the league, so why sign a six year contract?
Why not? Everyone else did. We were the best team in the league in 16-17 in stats and on the eye test. So why not? Levy sold everyone on it..."Watch Us Rise" my man...everything will be different with the new stadium, etc etc. Most were caught off-guard by his greedy and perfidious ways. So why wouldn't Kane have been affected too? Plus, you are discounting the fact that he was doing the club a solid by signing that contract but assigning negative incentives to Kane for doing it. The club was offering because he could have left us high and dry at that time and you are slightly revising things here.
He's actually paid an obscene amount of money to kick a bit of leather around, and "not a normal job" notwithstanding there's an expectation from all that you do your best.
Would that be like a gentleman's agreement, an unwritten rule that could mean different things to different people? If Kane had breached his contract we'l have sued him.

You are paid to train. We've heard it many a time. Selection is at the manager's discretion. If Kane ain't up to it then we should play one of our other strikers...oops! Performances of a players are not guaranteed. It's up to the club to provide the conducive environment to get it out of them. .

When you sign for a club there is also an expectation that the chairmen would do his best to produce a winning club and environment...that is the purpose of the game right? Imagine singing your career away and being faced with going 3 consecutive TWs with no signings?

I've seen the behavior of folks on this board. I think it's rich for folk's to suggest this amazing standard of behavior for Harry as if they would be that way themselves in their real lives. I find it laughable. It was predictable and predicted so we shouldn't blame Harry for behavior that 99.9% of people on this board and of players would do. It's friggin hypocrisy and it feels like blaming the scorpion for stinging us. It's also why we should have sold him. We didn't have all the leverage we though we (some) thought we had. It's just that happy clappers imputed superhuman expectation on a human.
And he can be another player that nearly did Shearer's record but fell short and lost his way.
Yeah, he will also be that by playing in a shitty team like we are right now. Not sure that anyone can fathom double digit league goals for him ATM.
 
But in fairness to Kane, is he missing sitters? He isn’t even getting the ball. It can’t be all his fault. The longer he goes without goals the less likely it is that he gets his move away.
He’s not looking for the ball though

He either hides or fucks it up when he gets it like yesterday

The odd decent pass he does make doesn’t cut it
 
Everyone else isn’t a striker

It was categorically explained to you 150 times why and who Kane scores against

Top scorer sounds good doesn’t it.
Now do the honest breakdown of that.

This is the entire problem. Harry Kane does not perform well under any sort of high pressure or against big clubs.

Do you now believe this?
How can players “feed” a striker that DOES NOT want the ball?

Son runs around a lot but only has 4 goals in 12 games this season, a very ordinary record. Has he also fallen off, or is it also because we have a very ordinary midfield devoid of any sort of creativeness along with ordinary full-backs?
 
I got lambasted - and questioned if I supported Spurs - on this forum when I suggested that Spurs would be better off selling Kane - as I explained that his mind would not be "on" Spurs - and investing the money in Vlahovic and some other players. Yes, he's a professional but he's still a human being with its emotinal specter.
It's obvious that last summer's transfer debacle did indeed affect Kane - in a negative way. And I am surprised that Levy was not able to foresee that.
If Man City are still willing to pay £130m this winter then I'd sell Kane and go for Vlahovic and/or Jonathan David.
Or another. ‘Top’ striker!
 
Son runs around a lot but only has 4 goals in 12 games this season, a very ordinary record. Has he also fallen off, or is it also because we have a very ordinary midfield devoid of any sort of creativeness along with ordinary full-backs?
A combination of the above plus a manager totally out of his depth even more than Mason was
 
Son runs around a lot but only has 4 goals in 12 games this season, a very ordinary record. He couldn't hit a Cows arse with a Banjo yesterday. Has he also fallen off, or is it also because we have a very ordinary midfield devoid of any sort of creativeness along with ordinary full-backs?
Son has always been a 50/50 merchant.
He did this with a peak Eriksen, Kane and Dele around him too.

But having a striker playing like this benefits nobody. The guy has poisoned the dressing room.

Son and Moura might be poor at times.
But they never, ever give up.

That’s the only difference that matters here.
 
I've seen the behavior of folks on this board. I think it's rich for folk's to suggest this amazing standard of behavior for Harry as if they would be that way themselves in their real lives. I find it laughable
Are you really saying that Kane has the right to behave like a prick because the club haven’t spent £2-300m to help him succeed? Comparing his behaviour to those who are bullied at work, paid minimum wage, picked on endlessly through lack of funding etc to a cosseted multi-millionaire who has - by almost everyone’s (albeit mocking) agreement the best training facilities and stadium in the world in which to ply his trade?

What else could they do? There’s not the money - don’t excuse his sulk. Yes, maybe he needs support in finding his mojo but please don’t compare his plight to that of the supporters who may be struggling for shelter, food, etc. In the same way you won’t excuse Levy, don’t excuse what looks like a protracted tantrum of a man-baby.
 
Another week, another non performance, another few million knocked off his value.

Expect Levy to be offering him a new £450k per week contract sometime soon.
 
I they need a striker I think plenty would buy him, just not for anything like the money that was being talked about. I don't believe for a moment he has suddenly lost all of his ability. 12 months ago he was playing some of the best football of his career. His head has gone for us and his heart is elsewhere. He's not suddenly become a bang average player in the space of a few months. He's just going through the motions, in what is a very average side under a very average manager.

I'm not saying its the case (I honestly don't know if he's just mentally checked out at Spurs) but this can absolutely happen. Alexis Sanchez was playing the best football of his career 12 months before he completely fell off as a player. United gave him that huge contract and the rest is history. Clubs will be wary of this repeating itself, signing Kane on big money now is a HUGE risk when he's this badly out of form. I honestly think we'll struggle to get rid.

We've seen sharp declines before. Even Ozil as soon as he got his big contract checked out of football entirely. Again, with Kane it could just be him not fancying it at Spurs in particular, but if you were City do you stake a huge wage and 75m+ on that? I certainly wouldn't. At this point the only smart thing to do is either avoid him or potentially even just wait till the summer when he'll be even more cut price and will have dropped his wage demands further after a full terrible season.

We need him, very badly, to find some kind of form. Just so he becomes a sellable asset.
 
He's going through the motions.

Teammates (both club and country) have lost confidence in his ability and so are choosing not to supply him with the ball.

Not replacing Llorente (Vinicius doesn't count), or at least giving him another year, verged on criminal neglect. When Fulham went down, Mitrovic was there for the taking. Instead we end up with Sessegnon (is he still with us?).

The whole debacle of leaving two transfer windows with no signings to bolster the 16-17 squad is now haunting us. Along with some frankly laughable signings/loans (Sanchez, Vinicius, Fernandes, Doherty, Aurier, Hojbjerg (apart from a run of about 15 games), Bergwign etc etc, and the retention of no-hopers - Davies, Winks, Dele.

An all-pervading sense of gloom is descending on our club.
 
I think this was a bigger mistake than not selling Kane this summer. If we had a competent backup Kane would have to fight for his place and we perhaps wouldn’t be seeing this current version of him.
Agreed...and it's gone on for years. And there is someone responsible for both of these mistakes yet folks want to tear the hide out of Kane. I think he has been and continues to be overrated by some but I don't fault him for wanting a move away nor possibly sulking because of the situation. But I do fault the organization for not having competition for him in 6+ seasons. And that is where we should be focusing our ire not at Kane because he'd be benched.
 
Son has always been a 50/50 merchant.
He did this with a peak Eriksen, Kane and Dele around him too.

But having a striker playing like this benefits nobody. The guy has poisoned the dressing room.

Son and Moura might be poor at times.
But they never, ever give up.

That’s the only difference that matters here.

They're both happy at the club though. Kane clearly isn't. Son recently signed a new contract, which suggests he's content and in a comfort zone, and Moura should feel quite fortunate he's playing for a club like us.

Kane clearly isn't giving his all. That's easy to see. But you also can't pretend that he's not getting next to no service most games which also isn't helping him or us.
 
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