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If we do that, more players would choose to run down their contracts like Eriksen and we’d get nothing in return.I don't get the sympathy people have for players that want to get out of their contracts early.
It's really simple - don't sign contracts you don't intend to honour.
A verbal 'gentleman's agreement' may be something people expect to be kept to - but signing a physical contract ensuring you earn millions of pounds before bonuses aren't something people are expect to respect?
Weird. Ask for a 2-3 year contract rather than a 5-6 year one when the time comes.
Agreed. Not saying I like seeing the backs of Son and Kane if they do go. But in some ways to really overhaul the team we need to let go off the old one.I may sound like I'm off my meds here, but I'm quite calm about this aspect as well.
I have been feeling for a long time now that we need a complete overhaul, and this might mean a couple seasons of mediocrity and no Europe. An overhaul was never going to happen on the backs of Sissoko, Winks, Dier, and other lagging performer sales, it was only going to come from bigger players. Not only that but with players like Kane and Son so integral to our team, all transfers are essentially viewed at how they fit into our existing system.
I'm not saying it is good, going to be fun, or easy for us to manage through but sales of Son and Kane would allow us to be able to truly overhaul the team and our entire style of play.
I remember an interview with Paulinho before he joined - just looked up the quote;Some players just don't fit in a particular country/league. But it sure was baffling seeing him rock up at Barcelona and actually be good.
Not the strongest response, but I guess an honest one. Calling Kane "H" doesn't help the "Mason's mates" narrative even I will admit![]()
It happens.I remember an interview with Paulinho before he joined - just looked up the quote;
“This summer there has been interest in their coach and their best player – and they have been clear they both are not going anywhere. “When my agent made me aware that Tottenham were interested I knew it would not be a move that I could turn down.”
We all know what happened soon after.
Perhaps he turned up at Spurs with the feeling he had been lied to or misled - which could have had an impact on his attitude towards us.
Literally sounds like a young Sherwood
There is some truth to this but I once again push back on the American-style "rebuilding" concept.I may sound like I'm off my meds here, but I'm quite calm about this aspect as well.
I have been feeling for a long time now that we need a complete overhaul, and this might mean a couple seasons of mediocrity and no Europe. An overhaul was never going to happen on the backs of Sissoko, Winks, Dier, and other lagging performer sales, it was only going to come from bigger players. Not only that but with players like Kane and Son so integral to our team, all transfers are essentially viewed at how they fit into our existing system.
I'm not saying it is good, going to be fun, or easy for us to manage through but sales of Son and Kane would allow us to be able to truly overhaul the team and our entire style of play.
You know exactly what I mean, selling to a Premier League team would be utter lunacy.
I was listening to, I think, Darren Bent on Talksport talking about how Levy strongarms players into those longer contracts (5/6 as standard). And in order to convince Kane to sign it, he probably made all sorts of promises regarding ambition and spending that he clearly hasn't honoured. As he likewise hasn't and probably won't honour a gentleman's agreement with Kane.I don't get the sympathy people have for players that want to get out of their contracts early.
It's really simple - don't sign contracts you don't intend to honour.
A verbal 'gentleman's agreement' may be something people expect to be kept to - but signing a physical contract ensuring you earn millions of pounds before bonuses aren't something people are expect to respect?
Weird. Ask for a 2-3 year contract rather than a 5-6 year one when the time comes.
Really? Didn't know that.But now both Nagelsmann and the sporting director that signed him are leaving so he is trying to work out a way for Ajax to buy him back.
This strikes me as a very plausible explanation of what we've seen.The thing that best fits the available facts in my mind is that there was a gentleman's agreement last year from Levy to sell Kane for a certain fee this summer (we know Levy does this, he did it with Eriksen), an offer has come in for that fee that Kane and his team are aware of, and the club are now telling Kane they plan not to accept and are trying to persuade him to stay.
Yeah, it was announced on almost the same day.
It won’t bring the price down though. Not a chance will Levy sell Kane for much less than £150mThis is the thing, they won't pay the price we want, which is why they need him to agitate for a move, which would bring the price down. I'm disappointed he's agreed to do so. Grealish was gutted when Villa held firm and point blank refused to sell him to us at any price, but he kept quiet and didn't push for the move, so stayed on good terms with everyone at the club, and was subsequently rewarded for doing so.
Maybe people didn't listen to the interviews Kane did in the weeks following Mourinho's sacking.I don't think they had some intimate personal connection necessarily. But Mourinho told Kane he should be a Messi/Ronaldo level player, built the team around him, and was single-mindedly focused on winning trophies, I think Kane bought into the Mourinho aura and the idea that he was brought on to take the club to the next step.
And then he's sacked a week before a Wembley final and replaced by a 29 year old youth coach. It was a total betrayal of what he had been told the Mourinho appointment was about, and made clear for the millionth time that his club doesn't give a shit about winning things.
I don't think Kane hated Mourinho's football the way we did. Why should he? He was in blistering form at the center of everything.