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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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He's clearly trying. He's just in a serious physical decline since his injuries. He has been for 2-3+ years now.

We're just noticing it more now given it's gotten to the point where he can't perform against average sides.

His decline is similar to Rooney's who also peaked around 24-25 years old and was in the MLS by 32.
I think Kane is in better shape than Rooney. For a starter, Kane's never been a big party goer - unlike Rooney. And all those "sex scandals" Rooney was involved in almost certainly took a toll on his mentality. Something Kane's avoided.
 
I think Kane is in better shape than Rooney. For a starter, Kane's never been a big party goer - unlike Rooney. And all those "sex scandals" Rooney was involved in almost certainly took a toll on his mentality. Something Kane's avoided.
Rooney is just one example

Dozens of other players experiencing sharp declines by their late 20s

Take a look at their respective stats after peaking at 24/25 years old. They're eerily similar.
 
Rooney is just one example

Dozens of other players experiencing sharp declines by their late 20s

Take a look at their respective stats after peaking at 24/25 years old. They're eerily similar.
Kane was still peaking at 28 as he became last season's EPL's top scorer with 23 (+14 assists). Yes, he's had a dip in form, true, which is normal after a big mid-summer tournament (Euros 2021).
But you also have players like Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Lewandowski and Zlatan who are still top players even after their mid-30s
 
But you also have players like Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Lewandowski and Zlatan who are still top players even after their mid-30s
I've already explained what a normal decline looks like in the quoted post below. You can still be a productive player overall and still be declining. The first alarm bells is when a player starts to struggle against good sides which has been the case for Kane over the last 3+ seasons.

I would agree with that. But if you follow any player that's in decline, it follows the same path of regression:

1. Loses a step = Struggles to perform against top teams
2. Loses 2 steps = Struggles to perform against good teams
3. Loses 3 steps = Struggles to perform against average teams
4. Loses 4 steps = Struggles against almost every team
5. In the MLS

I think last season, he was at stage 1 or 2 so he was still a very productive player overall, primarily against average/poor teams.

Now, it looks like he's declined to stage 3 and pushing for stage 4. We're still seeing him put in good/decent performances against ECL level competition as well as Newcastle but he's struggled against every average/good PL side.

This similar regression happened to Rooney at the same age.
 
Hmmm Despite everyone criticising kane for his behaviour and performances this season. Your problem is we all wont buy into your agenda that hes been shit for years. Get over it and move on ffs. Same thing over and over every time anyone comes into this thread
tbf I think he has been poor since pre CL final after his big injury. Admittedly he changed his game from out and out striker to dropping deep and being striker provider. But not great as he was.
 
A couple of world class passes today that should have led to goals.
Got into some good positions but no service again. Well, he got service but the passes were all "close but no cigar."
 
As weve all said this season he has been shit.
But you revel in it is the difference
No, I was hoping he'd score a goal today and predicted on the match thread that he'd get one but his form and physical state is beyond saving at this point.

So this is about ego then? Should have known.
No, it's pointing out an observation to a fanbase that seems to have been hypnotized by the Kane halo effect. Kane has been in decline for 3+ years now - it's statistically a fact and the eye test would tell you that he's physically declined. All declines start with a player being unable to perform against top/good teams, as was the case with Kane over the last 3+ years. It was only a matter of time before he hit a wall but even I didn't think the type of decline we've seen over the last 6-8 months was going to happen so quickly.

All this Kane talk has been like trying to tell scientologists that they're part of a cult but their response is that Tom Cruise is in fact a god and can do no wrong.
 
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It's like he wants to be De Kane and play midfield ?

Unless we can sign another decent forward in Jan, we are stuck with the same problems
1. If he gets injured, no obvious replacement. But when we signed Bergy I thought he could play wing or CENTRAL! Now he has bulked out give him a go at C.F.?
2. If he keeps sulking about City move, he won't play well nor will we get the £120million to buy elsewhere
3. He will not stay up front !
 
A couple of world class passes today that should have led to goals.
Got into some good positions but no service again. Well, he got service but the passes were all "close but no cigar."
Oh dear
Golden boot against the bottom 10 to no assists…….but they should have have been world class assists…….but they wasnt

I saw more shit passes than good ones, no shots, didn’t win a single header and can’t run

But he did a cross rafter 45 minutes”
 
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