Have we signed the Mighty Amrabat?

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Lucas is a baked bean, do we need another?

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Guido said:
It has been reported that we have agreed on a fee with Milan, that's what I'm passing that off. It hasn't been reported that we've signed him to a pre-contract or not.

There are loads of plates spinning at once that determine whether this does get done or not, these plates aren't just the 3 parties involved (us, Player, Milan) but also Ndombele agreeing a move to PSG (if this deal fails to go though then like a stack of cards all the other will be off).

I've detailed why Kessie wouldn't leave Milan now and would wait for the summer. And I think that's totally realistic and understandable from the player.

Who knows he could come now, the Club might want money for him now instead of nothing in the summer. OR, they have weighed up the balance and could bite the bullet and think him in the team improves their chances of winning the league this year so don't want him to leave until the summer.

For Kessie, it's a win/win if he stays until the summer. As he might win the title and pick up a winners medal + a massive win bonus. He's already been offered a new Contract by Milan, so if the Spurs don't get CL football then he has a choice to stay or gamble on PL and Conte.

So, it's clear that the pieces of the jigsaw have been put in place:
1. Ndombele goes to PSG
2. Kessie fee as been agreed with Milan
3. Amrabat is cover for Kessie if he agrees to come in the summer and sings a pre-contract
4. Amrabat is cover for Kessie if he doesn't sign a pre-contract and waits to see if we finish 4th or not (if we don't finish 4th I might be fucked???)
5. Amrabat is cover for Ndombele (who barely played) ergo he's cover for Ndombele, Winks, Skipp & PEH. It's unlikely he will play ahead of Winks, PEH & Skipp as he's COVER.
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The can can always be kicked to the next transfer window, this is evergreen excuse making.

The argument was that Conte totally redeemed our calamitous summer because we’d be able to tidy up our business in January.
 
Igula said:
This isn't 1975, the internet exists, there are tons of reports and information about players out there that is easy for anyone to access.

Do you honestly think that there isn't enough information about this player for people to get a sense of what he is about?

I don;t think you need to have spent years watching Serie A to see that a 25 year old player with one good season at Hellas Verona, one ok season at Fiorentina and then a poor half season- due to injuries and or fit in the formation- is not the level of player that is likely to fix our needs.

Is there any thought that any of the top 3 teams- Chelsea, Liverpool or City would consider this guy? That is the level we need to be going for and I am not sure you need to have hours and hours of game film on this guy to see he is not likely at that level.
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Sorry didn't realise you were an expert scout. I bow to your superior knowledge.

Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester city don't need any midfielders.
 
Stov said:
Sorry didn't realise you were an expert scout. I bow to your superior knowledge.

Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester city don't need any midfielders.
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Who said anything about being an expert scout? Is that really the best response you have?

This is a message board people are going to give their opinions that is the point of the site.

If you think that anytime someone gives their opinion it means they think they are an expert scout/coach/DOf etc then you will struggle here.

So if they Chelsea, City or Liverpool needed MFers you think this is the profile of a player they would look at?
 
Guido said:
It has been reported that we have agreed on a fee with Milan, that's what I'm passing that off. It hasn't been reported that we've signed him to a pre-contract or not.

There are loads of plates spinning at once that determine whether this does get done or not, these plates aren't just the 3 parties involved (us, Player, Milan) but also Ndombele agreeing a move to PSG (if this deal fails to go though then like a stack of cards all the other will be off).

I've detailed why Kessie wouldn't leave Milan now and would wait for the summer. And I think that's totally realistic and understandable from the player.

Who knows he could come now, the Club might want money for him now instead of nothing in the summer. OR, they have weighed up the balance and could bite the bullet and think him in the team improves their chances of winning the league this year so don't want him to leave until the summer.

For Kessie, it's a win/win if he stays until the summer. As he might win the title and pick up a winners medal + a massive win bonus. He's already been offered a new Contract by Milan, so if the Spurs don't get CL football then he has a choice to stay or gamble on PL and Conte.

So, it's clear that the pieces of the jigsaw have been put in place:
1. Ndombele goes to PSG
2. Kessie fee as been agreed with Milan
3. Amrabat is cover for Kessie if he agrees to come in the summer and sings a pre-contract
4. Amrabat is cover for Kessie if he doesn't sign a pre-contract and waits to see if we finish 4th or not (if we don't finish 4th I might be fucked???)
5. Amrabat is cover for Ndombele (who barely played) ergo he's cover for Ndombele, Winks, Skipp & PEH. It's unlikely he will play ahead of Winks, PEH & Skipp as he's COVER.
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Mate, seriously quit while you're not ahead. I know this nonsense makes sense in your head but it's cringeworthy.
 
Guido said:
I find it fucking bizarre why the melts are melting.

If reports are to be believed we've pretty much agreed to sign Kessie from AC Milan, who is Conte's number one choice. The problem is we can't get him until the summer. This is fucking normal for contracted players (especially for soon-to-be out-of-contract players) that are of the calibre to get in the Jan window.

1. Good established players are already playing for good Clubs, that might be in a Title challenge as AC Milan are.
2. Milan might have decided to bite the bullet (leaves on a free) and think their chances at winning the title are better if he stays rather than selling now and getting the money they wouldn't get in the summer.
3. These players (Kessie) would have a concern about Tottenham, that we aren't in CL this season, or last season and may not make it next season. It's possible the final element he's waiting for before he commits is if we finish in CL (Milan will almost certainly finish in CL spot this season and have already offered him a new contract).
4. If he's staying at Milan (If I were playing I would 100% stay at Milan, even as a Spurs fan because I could get a winners medal and pick up an extra £1m in win bonuses + he gets a massive signing on fee as his contract expires in June) which makes perfect sense.

Because Conte has requested a player for this position as a priority we look to have secured this player (his number one choice, Kessie) for him and are looking to provide a solution for him NOW until the end of the season to cover the position (Ndombele's a player that barely got mins under Conte anyway) until the summer then this is what backing your manager looks like. He gets his number one choice in summer (assuming we get 4th) and he gets cover for a players position that he didn't play anyway.
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What gives you the idea weve signed Kessie? What about our clubs gives you such confidence?
 
Guido said:
Who the fuck said and believes this??

Certainly NOT Conte as he’s said himself something entirely different.
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“We need to do something”

“There must be a place to start”

The squad is collapsing around Conte.

This isn’t a debate. It’s the law of gravity.

Colossal, unprecedented transfer spending or mid table. At best.
 
Guido said:
Because it has been reported that we have agreed a fee with Milan.

There are a ton of reasons why that signature might not be forthcoming until the summer which I’ve listed in great detail. Many, many spinning plate’s.
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If the deal is in the Summer it’s on a free and any discussions with Milan are meaningless.
 
FightingIllini said:
“We need to do something”

“There must be a place to start”

The squad is collapsing around Conte.

This isn’t a debate. It’s the law of gravity.

Colossal, unprecedented transfer spending or mid table. At best.
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He’s fucking come out and said it will take many windows within the last 24hrs!!!!

What are you expecting this Window, a clutch of CL proven elite players??
 
Igula said:
Who said anything about being an expert scout? Is that really the best response you have?

This is a message board people are going to give their opinions that is the point of the site.

If you think that anytime someone gives their opinion it means they think they are an expert scout/coach/DOf etc then you will struggle here.

So if they Chelsea, City or Liverpool needed MFers you think this is the profile of a player they would look at?
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My opinion is you don't have a clue what you're writing about.
 
Guido said:
He’s fucking come out and said it will take many windows within the last 24hrs!!!!

What are you expecting this Window, a clutch of CL proven elite players??
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LOL

So that is the only option sign Amrabat or a clutch of CL players????

The only one bringing up this clutch of CL players is you. It is just another strawman you keep relying on to make yort pathetic point.
 
Guido said:
Because it has been reported that we have agreed a fee with Milan.

There are a ton of reasons why that signature might not be forthcoming until the summer which I’ve listed in great detail. Many, many spinning plate’s.
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And you dont think other clubs will want him? Agreeing the fee with the club doesnt mean shit. Did Vlahovic move to Woolwich after they agreed a fee?
 
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