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Player Heung-Min Son (손흥민)
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1 v 1 , he has so much trouble going past a player or creating space for himself if hes not already outpaced them. Been poor since many months now.
Out of interest why did you give me a disagree about it being time to sell Son?
Explained it in this earlier post:
He's scored 4 goals in his last 7 games, which is not bad for someone who has apparently totally lost it.
This level of criticism would make sense if we were controlling the games, and Son was missing sitters etc. Given Son has received more criticism than Reguilon on TFC today, it feels like scapegoating to me.
There's no doubt Son's best quality is clinical finishing. Stats show he has highest goal/xG conversion percentage in Europe since 2015 by miles.
But in the past few months, I don't think we've been controlling games or creating many chances.
When Jose was manager our mindset was too defensive. We relied too much on one strategy of Kane dropping deep and sending a through ball to Son, but soon teams realised this and blocked it off.
Then Mason came in and tried to promote an attacking mindset, but by droppingKaneDomBadBoy he ensured we don't have any creativity in our midfield. There is no point in having a clinical forward in your team if no midfielder makes incisive passes.
Even Bergwijn's great goal today came from a Villa mistake. Kane has scored 3 goals in his last 7 games, and 2 of them were assisted to him by horrific Michael Keane errors.
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Given Kane wants to leave, is it wise to sell both the #1 and #2 most clinical finishers in Europe at the same time?
It may sound ridiculous to get rid of our second top scorer, who’s also top 5 in the league but given Son’s contract situation, it would make sense.
He’s an aging winger who relies on space and pace; stats wise he’s had the best season of his career. Despite the one year left, a decent can still come for Son.
If Kane leaves, I’d say we go for a FULL REBUILD.
He’s an aging winger who relies on space and pace; stats wise he’s had the best season of his career. Despite the one year left, a decent can still come for Son.
If Kane leaves, I’d say we go for a FULL REBUILD.
My concern is Son is as incredible a goal scorer as he is because of Kane. I'd be worried we don't replace Kane's playmaking and goal threat, leading to Son being suffocated as the only viable attacking option.
We may very well be shut out more often than not next season.
If we have a solid plan under competent people I agree. If it is Levy and Hitchen running the show then I would prefer to keep Son because he has the talent to win games on his own and we will need that.
It would make more sense to sell Kane and/or Son, not because of their current form or their desire to leave, etc, but from the club's financial perspective. The club is in debt of more than 1.1 billion pounds, including a 175 million-pound short-term loan from the Bank of England. The loan must be paid back soon. The club also previously estimated that it would lose about 200 million pounds in revenue this season alone. That being said, if we sell Kane and/or Son (along with other fringe players), we shouldn't expect that the overall proceeds would contribute to rebuilding the squad in a 1:1 ratio. I am not saying Levy will not attempt to find Kane and/or Son replacements at all, but he will more likely utilize more of these 1 or 2 year loan options, buy-back clauses, youth options, etc.
Has Son's decline coincided with the news that Kane wants out? Maybe it was some months ago and he has had a wobble and wants out too, who knows till they know, eh?
I think Sons decline has coincided with shit play in our midfield. He obviously can go on wonder runs like we saw with his goal of the season but he relies more on getting on the end of quality balls or having space to run at defenders when other players draw the defense out of shape. He hasn't had either.
This doesn't excuse some of his own bad play, he seems really tentative to go at guys, shoot or make quickly passes which is on him and surprising, but I think Son is a guy that would look a lot better if we had a functioning MF.
The loan is being repaid next March
Hardly soon
I did a lengthy post about this a couple of weeks ago
Son should be sold because of his poor form as highlighted earlier by me and several other posters
Nothing against him and he’s been brilliant for us but he doesn’t look interested atm
Believe it or not, over the past 3-4 seasons, Son has had a better goal scoring track record when Kane is not playing. I think last time someone looked into it, he scored around half the matches he played in without Kane. Part of that is due to the fact that he's playing more centrally and up top and I'd assume another part of it is because he feels the need to step up.
I don't think its a coincidence that his form fell off a cliff right after his contract talks fell through (around Dec/Jan).
The £175m loan was taken out because of the circa £175m/£200m loss of income in the last 12 months. Incidentally had Spurs received that income its likely they would have recirded a pre-tax profit of circa £100m (and maybe more) based upon revious financial results ie Spurs real losses in this last season are way less than the £175/£200m loan
Spurs could take on more 3rd party debt (whether straight debt, prefeence shares or whatever) to clear that loan or so what Liverpool did which is to issue another 10% or 20% shares (diluting existing shareholders) to bring in another shareholder ..... and importantly £200m - £400m cash into Totttenham Hotspur. And that money would clear debt and even buy a player or two. But I don't see that happening in the next couple of months
Also possibilities of selling off some of the property projects in Toittenham to raise cash to put into football club.
So a variety of ways to deal with the financial situation if Levy/ENIC wish to look at them
That's what I thought. son has been utter garbage since the new year yet starts every game he is fit for. I thought moura was beginning to put in some decent performances after his recent run in the team, then gets dropped.
On his day, son is class but for me, there are too many off days, I would sell this summer
There’s no denying that he’s had a longer than usual poor spell, but we’ve been badly coached for a year and we really have much bigger problems right now. Son is one of the last players we should be thinking about selling this summer especially if Kane is going. We’ve really got to focus on clearing out the likes of Winks, Sissoko, Dier, etc before Son. With decent coaching I think Son can find some form again, but there are plenty of others who are just plain shit.
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