• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Management If you could fix either the money or the strategy what would you choose?

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

What do you want to fix?

  • Fine with it as it is

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    69
Brighton are an example of a brilliantly run club. If we relative to size performed as well as them we would be winning the title and possibly champions league.
I do see your point here but my concern is how rare it is for strategy to ever truly trump the financial powerhouses.

Has it ever led to a title in past 20 years for a Club of our level of spend?

Perhaps Leicester is the closest example as a one off
 
So levys essentially using Spurs on field performances to finance ENIC and its shareholders other projects. Disgusting

Follow the money

Well it was funding of the stadium where we play rather than Hotels but yes money was put down by the club, it wasn’t just a case of borrow and refinance as long term bonds, it was a mixture of debt and cash.
 
I do see your point here but my concern is how rare it is for strategy to ever truly trump the financial powerhouses.

Has it ever led to a title in past 20 years for a Club of our level of spend?

Perhaps Leicester is the closest example as a one off

Woolwich could be about to do it, they aren’t spending that much more than us and Liverpool’s spending was powered by the sales of Suarez and Couthino.
 
I think it’s midfield Chelsea need to fix with Kante finished. Their attack is going to be Felix, Mudryk, nkunku & Madueke. Which is probably going to be quite good.
Those are promising prospects, but don't think it's easy to replicate what City has done...even if you're City.

Here are their transfers over 20M from Summer 2015 to Summer 2019

Raheem Sterling
Nicolas Otamendi
Kevin De Bruyne
Ilkay Gundogan
Leroy Sane
John Stones
Gabriel Jesus
Bernardo Silva
Ederson
Kyle Walker
Danilo
Benjamin Mendy
Aymeric Laporte
Riyad Mahrez
Rodri
Joao Cancelo

None of them were among the 6 most expensive transfers to a PL team during that period. It's an absolutely astonishing record. Mendy is the only real flop.
 
Woolwich could be about to do it, they aren’t spending that much more than us and Liverpool’s spending was powered by the sales of Suarez and Couthino.

I've said this before but Woolwich's situation over the last few years is similar to what we are now going through - new transfer structure put in place, bloated squad full of shite, spent a couple of seasons clearing the decks and bringing in unspectacular on-paper signings but all of a similar age & profile, manager working with what he has whilst underperforming in the league, as more new players come in and more old players leave performances improve - add some genuine quality after a season where things start to click on the pitch,go from strength to strength.

We're kinda in that early phase where they had the 2nd 8th place finish, if Conte sticks it out then another 2 windows like the previous 2 then maybe next season things will start to click for us like they did with Arteta last season
 
I've said this before but Woolwich's situation over the last few years is similar to what we are now going through - new transfer structure put in place, bloated squad full of shite, spent a couple of seasons clearing the decks and bringing in unspectacular on-paper signings but all of a similar age & profile, manager working with what he has whilst underperforming in the league, as more new players come in and more old players leave performances improve - add some genuine quality after a season where things start to click on the pitch,go from strength to strength.

We're kinda in that early phase where they had the 2nd 8th place finish, if Conte sticks it out then another 2 windows like the previous 2 then maybe next season things will start to click for us like they did with Arteta last season
I think the secret sauce with Woolwich is that they signed a well-liked former player as technical director and he hired a well-liked former captain as manager and they set about constructing a style of football that hearkened back to the glorious era in which they played. It bought them just enough patience to see it through.

Those figures don't exist for Spurs.

I said they don't exist, Tim :sherwoodwtf:
 
I think the secret sauce with Woolwich is that they signed a well-liked former player as technical director and he hired a well-liked former captain as manager and they set about constructing a style of football that hearkened back to the glorious era in which they played. It bought them just enough patience to see it through.

Those figures don't exist for Spurs.

I said they don't exist, Tim :sherwoodwtf:

+ The well liked manager actually wanted to be there and was dedicated to the project, our manager sort of just looks listless now and has 6 months left that he's seemingly extremely happy to run down, especially since the DoF who was the reason he came here looks to be off.

We're not on the same trajectory as Woolwich. At all.
 
+ The well liked manager actually wanted to be there and was dedicated to the project, our manager sort of just looks listless now and has 6 months left that he's seemingly extremely happy to run down, especially since the DoF who was the reason he came here looks to be off.

We're not on the same trajectory as Woolwich. At all.
And their aging talismanic center forward was an absolute cunt who they were mostly happy to see the back of, whereas that's rightfully going to be an incredible trauma for our club.
 
I think the secret sauce with Woolwich is that they signed a well-liked former player as technical director and he hired a well-liked former captain as manager and they set about constructing a style of football that hearkened back to the glorious era in which they played. It bought them just enough patience to see it through.

Those figures don't exist for Spurs.

I said they don't exist, Tim :sherwoodwtf:

There was no patience from most of them. Edu (in DOF form) has been a hated figure there...... Until this season. Arteta (in manager form) wasn't too far behind him either.

The also hated Kronke's dug their heels despite them and seem to have been vindicated.
 
There was no patience from most of them. Edu (in DOF form) has been a hated figure there...... Until this season. Arteta (in manager form) wasn't too far behind him either.

The also hated Kronke's dug their heels despite them and seem to have been vindicated.
Well that's what I mean, patience from the board.

Levy absolutely would have sacked both of them in the wake of their humiliation at our hands last year, if they'd have even made it that long. And he arguably would have been right to do so!

It's a blend of good work and good luck, as any title necessarily must be.
 
And their aging talismanic center forward was an absolute cunt who they were mostly happy to see the back of, whereas that's rightfully going to be an incredible trauma for our club.

Please don't compare our relationship with Kane to them and PEA.....

They're so far apart.

He'd turned into a toxic little tosspot; was playing shit and is now just being passed about like a used rag.
 
Well that's what I mean, patience from the board.

Levy absolutely would have sacked both of them in the wake of their humiliation at our hands last year, if they'd have even made it that long. And he arguably would have been right to do so!

It's a blend of good work and good luck, as any title necessarily must be.

I see..... Yeh, you need a little luck.

Turns out their twatty fans were wrong about a lot of shit.
 
Please don't compare our relationship with Kane to them and PEA.....

They're so far apart.

He'd turned into a toxic little tosspot and was playing shit and is now just being passed about like a used rag.
I only do so to equate the quandary of getting rid of them being similar. Who is going to score the goals?

And now they're coasting to the title with Troy Parrot as their number 9 because god hates us.
 
And their aging talismanic center forward was an absolute cunt who they were mostly happy to see the back of, whereas that's rightfully going to be an incredible trauma for our club.

Their focus has been heavily youth oriented too . . I think they have the youngest squad in the league. We've signed a few good young players but they've not been established in the team and there are very few signs that changes unless we have another injury crisis. Saka came in and basically started every game, same with Ramsdale and Odegaard. Martinelli too aside from injury recovery.

Arteta trusts youth and has been patient with them. Conte uses them as a last resort .. it also helps that their young players are just straight up much better than ours, if we're being brutally honest.
 
Back
Top