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Are Referee's Reffing Us Out of The Premier League?

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As with all teams, we forget all the 50/50s that went for us, and remember all the 50/50s and at times the 20/80s that went against us.

But seriously, this is deluded tin hat , flat earth believing nonsense to suggest there is some conspiracy against us.

Just embarrassing from a few of you, but no surprise.

And for the record the panel and PGMOL have said more incorrect decisions have incorrectly benefitted Spurs than gone against.
All the ones mentioned in this thread are 50/50 referees call subjective decisions, which VAR won’t get involved in, and yes I do believe the Gabriel push was different to the Ekitike and Fulham ones.
 
Trotter said:
As with all teams, we forget all the 50/50s that went for us, and remember all the 50/50s and at times the 20/80s that went against us.

But seriously, this is deluded tin hat , flat earth believing nonsense to suggest there is some conspiracy against us.

Just embarrassing from a few of you, but no surprise.

And for the record the panel and PGMOL have said more incorrect decisions have incorrectly benefitted Spurs than gone against.
All the ones mentioned in this thread are 50/50 referees call subjective decisions, which VAR won’t get involved in, and yes I do believe the Gabriel push was different to the Ekitike and Fulham ones.
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"Flat earth" is actually a position that everyome is at the same level, i.e. that there is no preference for certain teams over others.
 
Kosher Kid said:
Silly to think football isn't fixed.

Only a child would think otherwise in 2026.

Believing football is honest is like still believing in Santa.
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Everybody knows that the Qatar WC was corrupt. Everybody knows that the Italian league was bent. But the PL? No chance.


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I still think that Spurs will be too big to go down which will hit the bottom line for the "product", but if there was to be a team from the Big 6 to be made an example out of to avoid it looking like a farmers league (which it clearly is over the last decade), it will be Spurs.

Tudor is starting to get warmed up in his calling out the refs but the club need to grow a pair and take an actual interest in what is happening on the pitch with the refs.
 
Trotter said:
As with all teams, we forget all the 50/50s that went for us, and remember all the 50/50s and at times the 20/80s that went against us.

But seriously, this is deluded tin hat , flat earth believing nonsense to suggest there is some conspiracy against us.

Just embarrassing from a few of you, but no surprise.

And for the record the panel and PGMOL have said more incorrect decisions have incorrectly benefitted Spurs than gone against.
All the ones mentioned in this thread are 50/50 referees call subjective decisions, which VAR won’t get involved in, and yes I do believe the Gabriel push was different to the Ekitike and Fulham ones.
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You're right.... 50/50 ... Some you win, some you lose!
Didn't need GL technology to see this one though.... Just EYES... and not a skewed sense of reality!

It NEVER ever evened itself out that one, and now with GL Tech & VAR, never will!
I for one will never forget that particular miscarriage of justice!

Though admittedly, it did take me a second look... And closer inspection just to be absolutely sure.....
if it had actually touched THE BACK OF THE NET!
 
Don Pedro said:
I don't believe its deliberate or planned. I just think its a bias that now has a wave of momentum behind it.

Do you think Gabriel and Romero are reffed the same? Do you think any of our players get treated like Saka or Rice by the referees? Its just become a massive bias. Its easy to give 50/50 decisions against Spurs and we've had them go against us all season. Its become very blatant since the turn of the year. Tudor is only here 2 games and he's already seen a goal disallowed for us that was then allowed against us in the next game and he's in total shock. We are used to this!
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And in years past, Kante who was considered a humble, nice guy by the media (seems accurate tbf) so he could commit about 14 fouls a game without a booking.

Media plays a massive part in all of this and we are the red-headed step child of the PL. We are outsiders when it comes to all “cliques” of the league. We are looked down upon by the Liverpools and Uniteds while being too big to be in the Everton, Villa tier.
 
It's not a big anti Spurs conspiracy but I see things like "refcam" and that whole section of Sky Sports News now dedicated to discussing refereeing decisions and it smacks of trying to make refs part of the "entertainment" and "the story".

I don't want fucking refcam, referees with microphones, drama and storylines. Just fucking ref the match properly and fairly and stay out the fucking way. VAR? Caused more controversy than it was supposedly going to clear up. But it's drama, and Sky loves drama. It's all bullshit.
 
Thought for quire a while there has been an agenda against us by most referees. The Romero push in the back, Dragusin push in the back and then the Saliba exaggerated dive are three examples that spring to mind. You have Simons sent off for tackle on VVD yet Dalot near breaks someones leg and its deemed ok. The problem is their is no consistency and thats with VAR, which I detest so much, to the extent I find games where it does not exist so much more enjoyable. VAR has alos given refs a get out of jail card with those clowns running VAR effectively now reffing the game. I think we have been hard done by this year, likely Levy has even managed to piss off every refereee after running out of Chairmen to sicken, but its like the old saying goes, when you are at the wrong end of the table and things are not going well then decisions do not seem to go your way.
 
The reality is that Football is a TV show, sold for billions, and supported by the betting industry, sponsorships and merchandise.

Sports aren't rigged in the traditional sense - there is not a committee of creatives plotting the outcomes (ala WWE). However, outcomes can (and are) influenced.

- Financial irregularities, always favouring those teams that generate the most revenue.
- Repercussions of getting a decision wrong favours the bigger teams, leading to referee bias.
- Is football the only sport in the entire world without doping? No chance, it is covered up and rigged to allow certain teams.

The Champions League and World Cup generate such huge revenues that it is unavoidable for match fixing not to take place. A Tottenham / Liverpool final significantly lower audience of finals involving Real Madrid (79 million vs 380 million). In that sense, Spurs reaching the final was a major financial disaster - and they won't allow that to happen again if they can help it).

The Premier League is a TV Show. In the final 3rd of the season, they need a title race and a relegation battle to keep people watching. Spurs/WestHam on brink of relegation. Woolwich/City fighting at the top. By the end of it, Villa will drop down to 5th; and all the big clubs will be back in the Champions League. On a nail-biting final day, Leeds, Burnley and Wolves will go down with either Spurs or West Ham getting a last-minute goal to stay up.

Grab your popcorn and enjoy the ride.
 
Trotter said:
As with all teams, we forget all the 50/50s that went for us, and remember all the 50/50s and at times the 20/80s that went against us.

But seriously, this is deluded tin hat , flat earth believing nonsense to suggest there is some conspiracy against us.

Just embarrassing from a few of you, but no surprise.

And for the record the panel and PGMOL have said more incorrect decisions have incorrectly benefitted Spurs than gone against.
All the ones mentioned in this thread are 50/50 referees call subjective decisions, which VAR won’t get involved in, and yes I do believe the Gabriel push was different to the Ekitike and Fulham ones.
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Fcuk off.
You're either not a spurs fan or simply gullible.
"PGMOL said more incorrect decisions have benefited Spurs"
So the people shitting in out cornflakes say they're not shitting in our cornflakes, and are, in fact, giving us M&S cornflakes.
And you just eat the shit, and accept. Because that's what you were told.
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Yeah, play on the red team...
Absolutely nothing to see here then!
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And yet it was a foul when Bentcur did less to Dan Burn. Result, penalty.
But nobody is shitting in our cornflakes.
 
1882 said:
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Yeah, play on the red team...
Absolutely nothing to see here then!
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Absolutely no conspiracy. These are just human beings guys. Don't be silly. Humans makes mistakes. Don't forget refs are very highly trained professionals, and Santa Clause told me they are impossibly honest. In a world full of corruption these PL refs are the last bastion of pureness remaining, the only thing standing between us and all out war between good and evil. We need to support the refs guys.
 
Don Pedro said:
I don't believe its deliberate or planned. I just think its a bias that now has a wave of momentum behind it.

Do you think Gabriel and Romero are reffed the same? Do you think any of our players get treated like Saka or Rice by the referees? Its just become a massive bias. Its easy to give 50/50 decisions against Spurs and we've had them go against us all season. Its become very blatant since the turn of the year. Tudor is only here 2 games and he's already seen a goal disallowed for us that was then allowed against us in the next game and he's in total shock. We are used to this!
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Two arsneal players were sent off for second yellows last season when they kicked the ball away - the first one - had it happened to us, would have had the uproar of bias.

Romero not getting sent off vs brentford this season as last man and scissor tackling thiago form behind

Haaland being denied goal for very weak handball last last season

Fernandes sent off vs us last year

Diaz goal disallowed

There are just some of the wrong decisions in recent seasons that have gone in our favour - the arsneal ones that went against them.

There are so many others - as i have shown - all you have to do is go look at other clubs forums where they have the same type of screenshots, the same kind of lists, the same kind of grievances.

I get it, ours are real, theres arent - or some other thing people say -

So either there is bias against many teams, or towards just one, or it is incompetence.

Either way...... its not what some are claiming it to be
 
dudu said:
Two arsneal players were sent off for second yellows last season when they kicked the ball away - the first one - had it happened to us, would have had the uproar of bias.

Romero not getting sent off vs brentford this season as last man and scissor tackling thiago form behind

Haaland being denied goal for very weak handball last last season

Fernandes sent off vs us last year

Diaz goal disallowed

There are just some of the wrong decisions in recent seasons that have gone in our favour - the arsneal ones that went against them.

There are so many others - as i have shown - all you have to do is go look at other clubs forums where they have the same type of screenshots, the same kind of lists, the same kind of grievances.

I get it, ours are real, theres arent - or some other thing people say -

So either there is bias against many teams, or towards just one, or it is incompetence.

Either way...... its not what some are claiming it to be
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I agree that it usually balances out over seasons and like i said - I don't believe any of this is deliberate.

However, right now, I think its very easy for a referee to give a 50/50 decision against us and we've seen this massively since Christmas. It feels like every big call has not gone our way apart from the City game! I think alot of this is down to the players been so defeated too. We aren't appealing or complaining as much as other teams as it looks like our fight is gone.

But I'm convinced that right now there is such a massive wave of momentum against this club that its almost an instinct for the referees to give decisions against us. Its simply an easy option. You'd be playing totally against the current narrative if you were to give Spurs a soft penalty and be seen to almost "bail them out". While referees are currently afraid to give a big decision against Woolwich as they know the outrage would be huge.
 
I believe that unconscious bias does come into play for match officials both in favour of, and directly against, certain players and certain clubs. So whilst I don’t believe there is a vendetta or deliberate action from governing bodies against Tottenham, the evidence seems to point towards certain clubs getting an easier ride. I also think that certain grounds will feel ‘safer’ for match officials and this plays a role in match decisions. For example, I was at the United game at Old Trafford a few weeks ago as unfortunately I could only get a ticket for the home section. Right from the off the home fans were berating the officials for every little decision, no matter how small, that didn’t go their way. Literally from the kick off, it was somewhat toxic even though it was pretty even from a game perspective. Queue 29 mins and a ‘certain player’ gets sent off against a ‘certain club’ at a ‘certain ground’ for a challenge that we have seen go unpunished or just a yellow elsewhere this season. I know at our home games it’s definitely a lot ‘quieter’ with regard to giving the officials a hard time, or setting the stall out for them early on, compared to other grounds, or dare I say WHL……just my opinion of course.
 
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Don Pedro said:
However, right now, I think its very easy for a referee to give a 50/50 decision against us and we've seen this massively since Christmas. It feels like every big call has not gone our way apart from the City game! I think alot of this is down to the players been so defeated too. We aren't appealing or complaining as much as other teams as it looks like our fight is gone.

But I'm convinced that right now there is such a massive wave of momentum against this club that its almost an instinct for the referees to give decisions against us. Its simply an easy option. You'd be playing totally against the current narrative if you were to give Spurs a soft penalty and be seen to almost "bail them out". While referees are currently afraid to give a big decision against Woolwich as they know the outrage would be huge.
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I understand why it seems that way - but I am not convinced.

The Narrative in the media and on the pitch follows the poor performances - doesnt shape them.

The wave of negative momentum feels compounded but we have created it ourselves due to appalling form for A YEAR.

This isnt a dip in form, this is. year of sustained awful results and frankly, we deserve the media narrative that is happening right now - it is a making of our own creation.

Also, before the game vs us, Woolwich had won 2 in 7 or something and had loads of decisions not go their way -

They are arguing on their sites that the only reason they aren't miles ahead of city is because there is a bias against them winning the league.

We both cant be right???
 
The notion of the club being too big and important for Sky Sports and PL to go down is exactly why we have every possibilities to go down.

With how sinister the world is becoming, incredible some fans can hold such innocence over sporting integrity.
 
dudu said:
I understand why it seems that way - but I am not convinced.

The Narrative in the media and on the pitch follows the poor performances - doesnt shape them.

The wave of negative momentum feels compounded but we have created it ourselves due to appalling form for A YEAR.

This isnt a dip in form, this is. year of sustained awful results and frankly, we deserve the media narrative that is happening right now - it is a making of our own creation.

Also, before the game vs us, Woolwich had won 2 in 7 or something and had loads of decisions not go their way -

They are arguing on their sites that the only reason they aren't miles ahead of city is because there is a bias against them winning the league.

We both cant be right???
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I don't know what they can be complaining about. Nearly all their set piece goals this season could easily have been disallowed if VAR wanted to get involved. The opposition goalkeeper gets a push every time and they are purposely obstructing defenders and pushing them out of the way. They are very lucky that a lot of their goals stand. We had a Romero goal against West Ham ruled out for far less than majority of their set piece goals
 
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