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Listening too a guy who’s written a book about football shirts, Neil Heard is his name and he was on the radio speaking about this and that a mentioned Fiorentina’s home shirt 91/92 season and the sinister undertones?
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Must admit I can’t remember if it was an issue or not at the time.
 
The question of CR7 - Las Vegas is from 2009. He was at Manchester United. That summer he moved to Real Madrid. Nothing was known for 9 years. He went away from Real Madrid and the case exploded. Curious timing ... No?
It was known but it was kept out of the public eye because the young lady was paid off to keep quiet. In his statement, Ronaldo acknowledges that she said NO more than once. What is key about this is his statement at the time confirms he raped her. Now I'm no legal expert and I don't know how this all pans out given the contract and payment that was in place 9yrs and why it has come up now.

What I do know is a) His statement confirms she didn't consent, so that's rape. b) Juve's public statement was crass and totally inappropriate. But then Juve is a morally bankrupt club. What with their match-fixing and cheating and what with their board members giving free tickets to the mafia. A despicable club, the Donald Trump of football clubs, liars, cheats and their actions to support a rapist has just fucked their value, which is hilarious.
 
I’am a Juventus fan but a very extreme part of the fans (a small part) are stupid infiltrations of organized crime (Ndrangheta). They make requests (blackmail) to the Company and if they are not satisfied they make fines with questionable initiatives.
Yeah, seems a commonplace still in Italian clubs up and down the country. It's a major problem and probably the one thing that is holding back football in Italy. I know so many clubs have tried so many things trying to combat it from working with or working against it, but nothing has made it go away.

You've so much in place in Italy, history & heritage in the game, great coaches and some good players but until it's sorted out it will remain your biggest threat.
 
It was known but it was kept out of the public eye because the young lady was paid off to keep quiet. In his statement, Ronaldo acknowledges that she said NO more than once. What is key about this is his statement at the time confirms he raped her. Now I'm no legal expert and I don't know how this all pans out given the contract and payment that was in place 9yrs and why it has come up now.

What I do know is a) His statement confirms she didn't consent, so that's rape. b) Juve's public statement was crass and totally inappropriate. But then Juve is a morally bankrupt club. What with their match-fixing and cheating and what with their board members giving free tickets to the mafia. A despicable club, the Donald Trump of football clubs, liars, cheats and their actions to support a rapist has just fucked their value, which is hilarious.

Juventus isn’t moral bankrupt. Juventus after the Serie B took years to get back competitive. For he made purchases and sales with an eye on the budget. We do not have Trump or emirs who pay PSG / Manchester City type. The big investment was made this year also and especially for the brand so this history of Las Vegas is dangerous in terms of image. I repeat: the me too has become viral since October 2017. How come the accusations start again after Real Madrid?

I make an out topic. If you want to talk about ethics and morality look at what Joe Lewis is doing in Patagonia towards the local populations.
 
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I didn't get to watch the game today - how was Fofana for Udinese? I've seen him a few times and he's looked a real good central midfielder.
 
Juventus isn’t moral bankrupt. Juventus after the Serie B took years to get back competitive. For he made purchases and sales with an eye on the budget. We do not have Trump or emirs who pay PSG / Manchester City type. The big investment was made this year also and especially for the brand so this history of Las Vegas is dangerous in terms of image. I repeat: the me too has become viral since October 2017. How come the accusations start again after Real Madrid?

I make an out topic. If you want to talk about ethics and morality look at what Joe Lewis is doing in Patagonia towards the local populations.
We haven't been involved in fixing football matches mate. To my knowledge, we don't give out free tickets to organised crime members and we haven't supported a rapist. Juve is a morally bankrupt club, convicted cheats.

I don't care whether the re-opening of Ronaldo's case is at the hands of Madrid or not. I see it as karma, you reap what you sow, cheats will never prosper.
 
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I didn't get to watch the game today - how was Fofana for Udinese? I've seen him a few times and he's looked a real good central midfielder.

I have not seen today's game but Fofana is playing well this year. For today's match in the Udinese blog he took the vote 5 but in general he is one of the team's most important players.

Udineseblog - Le pagelle dei bianconeri

He is playing a good championship.
 
Yeah, seems a commonplace still in Italian clubs up and down the country. It's a major problem and probably the one thing that is holding back football in Italy. I know so many clubs have tried so many things trying to combat it from working with or working against it, but nothing has made it go away.

You've so much in place in Italy, history & heritage in the game, great coaches and some good players but until it's sorted out it will remain your biggest threat.

The problem you're talking about is Juventus, Milan, Inter, Rome, Lazio (fans with Nazi sympathies), Napoli (camorra), Genoa (coach Gasperini left because he did not want to bow to a group of fans) and so on.

In 2000 the Inter ultras launched a scooter from the stands of the Meazza stadium.

 
In April 2018 the Lazio ultras have insulted Anna Frank.

In 2012 Roma fans attacked Totthenam fans in a pub. I think other fans have problems much bigger than those of Juventus where the hot heads are a small number.
 
Managed to catch up on some missed episodes of Golazo pod this week and my word, what a listen.

For those interested, I highly recommend the following episodes:
This pod touches on Quagliarella, following his amazing back-heel goal, I had no idea about the stalking case around him, it's fascinating to listen and very Italian story.
https://audioboom.com/channels/4938942.rss

Great conversation, well structured and takes you on a journey of the amazing story of Chievo story
https://audioboom.com/channels/4938942.rss

My favourite was this one on Gaucci - Many know about him from tabloid stuff written over the years, but told as an accumulative makes for a real education. Brilliant listen.
https://audioboom.com/channels/4938942.rss
 
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