Are you treating it as a win?
A few days ago you said the club “fucked up” by not selling him in his prime.
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A few days ago you said the club “fucked up” by not selling him in his prime.
Ok, I desperately want Piatek to come here, but no...
The same bloke has just posted this
Reminds me of this
It's not a question of 'minds' or opinions ... the club didn't receive any offers for Eriksen in 2017 when we wouldn't have sold anyway, or in 2018 when we might as he was still refusing to sign a new contract, or in the summer of 2019 when we definitely would have sold.
I'm not trying to change your mind just pointing out the facts ... you can't sell something nobody wanted to pay for. If he had been sold for 150m in 2018 that could have been game changing, just as Coutinho was for Liverpool, but that simply wasn't possible.
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I disagree. If it was made known Eriksen was for sale I think we would have got some decent offers in for him. I think relevant teams would be told he is avaliable & we are open to offers. To be honest I think levy would have wanted stupid money anyway. He has been known to over value our players by a lot. So a sale would have been unlikely with him around & Eriksen still having a couple of years on his contract.
We were actively shopping Eriksen around last summer but nobody except United showed real interest and he didn't want to go there.
Cancel all my meetings!
Problem being, Levy can’t win. It’s impossible to know when is the optimum time to sell a player. Had he sold Eriksen at his peak for, say £80 million, he would have been lynched for having no ambition and putting profit before performance.
Eriksen made it clear he wasn’t signing in spite of negotiations and his form fell off a cliff. He also made it clear that he wasn’t signing for any old club - something Levy couldn’t control either. He thought he was good enough for RM or Barca and they simply weren’t interested in buying him, so he’s ending up at Inter. Had we offloaded Eriksen for a huge fee, when he was playing superbly, the club (ie Levy) would have been heavily criticised and rightly so.
Wanyama has been unlucky with his injury. He was superb when at his peak. Had we sold him then, again Levy would have been lampooned for grabbing the cash and having no ambition.
Same with Rose. Had we sold him in the same summer as Walker, I think we know the Fan reaction there. He’s declined massively and is now a toxic voice at the club.
Far from fondling/licking/kissing DL’s balls - he made a big mistake not freshening up the squad - but sometimes it seems to me that whatever he does he is criticised. I don’t think it’s his fault that wantaway players won’t sign & we can’t persuade the clubs they want to go to, to buy them , & players who signed big contracts after some great times on the pitch in a highly competitive squad are now refusing to leave for less money.
He’s not without his faults, but Levy shouldn’t be blamed for events beyond his control
We were talking about before then.
I feel we need 2 or 3 players to build resilience and competition within our squad.
If we sign the lad from PSV plus gedson after his loan and what we spent in the summer its about 200 mil so cant say levy hasn't put his hand in his pocket. Plus add another forward to that total if we sign one
But many more are saying he has won. Which is strange if those people keep saying he can't win. You could say he can't lose though for all the reasons you suggest. If he sells, well you have to sell an unhappy player. He keeps him, you need to keep your best players. Sell him with 6 months to go, better than him going for free. Many are claiming a great victory for levy, which is far from the levy can't win idea.
I get your point about whatever he does he gets criticised. But equally I feel whatever he does he gets praised for by some.
United have truly entered the banter realm.
Noted... we will revisit this post
Fair enough you disagree. Here's how transfers work, players pay an agent to tout them around other clubs, it's about the worst kept secret in the world that Schoots has been trying to get the big two in Spain to sign Eriksen for over three years ... they simply didn't bite. It was only this window when suddenly Eriksen realising his "football manager" transfer wasn't happening, that his agent became open to offers from many more clubs.
Agents sell their players not football clubs, we may pay them but they are not slaves, only when an agent has agreed a deal with another club will we negotiate a fee, sure there will be indications we will let it be known we won't 130m, the buying club will offer 50m, and we'll meet at 75m (or in Levy's case 129m ++) ... but as I said in 2017, 2018 and summer 2019 no official approaches were ever made to Spurs, that's because Schoots never got any deals agreed that Eriksen was interested in ... we even tried to dump him on Utd but it was pretty much Real Madrid or nothing back then.
He hasn't won at all, nobody has, we are losing a top player for a low fee, sure over the contract we've saved 40m in wages but even so overall we certainly haven't won anything ...
It's only if you take this window in isolation that Levy has 'won' just how the feck do you get 20m for a player who will be available for free in six months? feck only knows ... that bit right there is a win, overall as you say it's really not.
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